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Realistically Russell will be back in the minors. The 5th starter spot is already muddled enough without adding him to the mix. Like you said he has good stuff and even managed to strike out Ichiro in his prior appearance. He's a big kid, 6' 8 " ,23 yrs old. He throws over the top but Contreras has been working with him on the 3/4 delivery to take advantage of his height against righties. He already feels comfortable with it.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 05:58 PM) The Garcia trade has gotten annoying really fast. Garcia was a salary dump. The White Sox organization was very high on Gio and Floyd, and was not high on Garcia. Floyd can become decent and Gio could become a stud. And one could argue that Garcia lost it last year and his career will go downhill from now on. In 5 years this could become a real steal, or a big blunder by KW. It is just way too early to say the Sox blew this one. Did KW undervalue Freddy and could have possibly gotten more, probably. But this wasn't a terrible trade, from what anyone could tell. And it wasn't an obvious bad trade. A trade that you could tell would be bad right away would be something like Jon Garland for Julio Franco and a crappy 'spect. But the Garcia/Floyd and Gio trade just has too many ifs and buts in it right now for one to conclude it was a bad trade. In the words of the Talking Heads " Stop Making Sense ." It was a bad trade the armchair GM's, fantasy geeks, and the biggest mouths on Soxtalk have spoken.

Gillick is looking for a sucker. Rowand is in his walk year. The stars aligned perfectly for the Sox and Rowand in 05' . That was his career year. He's worth zilch now and maybe less approaching free agency. I wouldn't trade Logan or much of anything for him. It's extremely necessary to show patience with Anderson.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Mar 9, 2007 -> 02:17 PM) Well, they could still be right. I'm just a guy looking at numbers on baseballcube. I'd assume seeing him pitch in person & knowing something about baseball would put the scouts opinions ahead of mine. John Sickels has been pretty optimistic about Floyd as recently as last year. And 5 spring training innings is too soon to say that Floyd won't contribute to the Sox. I'm not optimistic, but it's not like he's been getting shelled so far (like Vazquez, Garland, and Contreras have...). What was that ...humility ?? On this board ? Acknowledging the Sox network of coaches scouts etc. might have more knowledge then fans, statheads, armchair gm's and fantasy geeks is forbidden on this board !

He wants everyone to call him OJ or the Juice .

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 2, 2007 -> 12:46 PM) ARod said today Pinella is like a father to him, I wonder if he makes his way to the Northside after this year. I cant imagine having Soriano and Arods salaries on the same team though. Remember its the other team in Chicago you're talking about where money is no object.

Wizards of Oz

Panic at the Cell

Mr. Anderson

3 pitchers 3 diasters .

Statman u should be employed by the Sox. Love reading anything u write and your blog also.

Thanks Dave ! Looking forward to reading your tape transcription.

Best Damn's Top 50 Devastating Hits 27. Darin Hurt-Stad Anaheim Angels first baseman Darin Erstad played football at the University of Nebraska. Maybe that can explain what happened to Atlanta Braves catcher Johnny Estrada on June 6, 2005. Erstad was trying to beat out a throw at home and decided the best way to get there would be to tackle Estrada. After the tackle, Erstad slapped his hand on home plate and was called safe. Estrada lay on the ground for a few minutes, and eventually sent to the DL. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 19, 2007 -> 01:55 PM) I just watched those and I must admit, I had no idea Eduardo Perez was American. Son of Tony Perez of Big Red Machine fame, grew up in the states .

I applaud your efforts. Prepare to be ridiculed !

This should help . http://www.calendars.com/results.asp?TID={...-1&format2= Maybe it won't help I don't think it's a schedule just a Sox Calendar. Search around google.

Welcome back kid now grab your glove and head out to short.

A piece of White Sox history is gone and will be missed. RIP Ray and I hope you enjoyed the World Series in 05 .

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Feb 1, 2007 -> 07:22 AM) I finally got in the running for award, although somehow it was for the pessimistic award, il take what i can get i even voted for myself I'm in the same category though I know I won't win it. Wait a second ... that was pessimisstic wasn't it ? I do deserve it after all !

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Feb 1, 2007 -> 12:21 AM) I'm nominaed for "Most eloquent poster who can right good." How did that happen? Anyway, whoever nominated me, I appreciate the thought and gesture. Same to those who've voted for me thus far and whoever will in the near future. If i culda ben numinatid 4 ne a ward i waz hoppin it wood b dat 1 !

I didn't think I posted enough to be nominated for anything . To my shock and dismay there I was in the pessimisstic award nominations ! Why was I not informed of this dubious honor ? Shocks the hell out of me thats for sure. If I win I'll write a scathing editorial of the whole Soxtalk organization so help me God ! I'll bring this place down like a house of cards !! Think green for this post !

Larry Moe and Curly . Oh damn it one of the 3 stooges is already gone. How bout Hardrock , Coco and Joe ??

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 28, 2007 -> 03:52 AM) Erstad's last 700 ab's haven't been awful. He was hitting .289/.355/.399 at the all star break in '05--hitting #1 and #2 in the lineup and playing everyday. Erstad then hurt his hip in late '05, played everyday, and tailed off to his .273 avg and /.329 obp line The sox [i believe rightly so] aren't worried about Anderson's progression and development. They want production at this point so they can make the playoffs. If Erstad hits near his career numbers [not an unlikely scenario], I'd expect Brian to play a lot of defense late in games in Lf and/ or CF. While it would hurt his development, the team goals of winning games come first. While Anderson projects to be better than Erstad the next 10 years, Erstad might outperform him in the short term. Brian has to show he can put together quality AB's and outhit erstad. We all know he can field. And it might not even be Brian who's the odd man out if Erstad is healthy and hitting. Pods hitting and playing defense like he did last yr won't see a lot of time.{/b} Thank you. Injuring himself while training is not a good sign. I also hope Erstad has quit the chewing tobacco for health reasons. With his history of injuries he's got to consider any unhealthy habit can be a contributing factor to overall health.

This is a very good thread. Many varied opinions offered without any insults or cute remarks regarding anyones basebal acumen. Screwball, Jason, LV, Gene all good points as well as others I havent mentioned. I'd like to add that the constant bickering does make the Sox appear cheap and petty. But more than that its whats going on in all of baseball especially on the northside of town. The Sox are the team that won a recent World Series and made promises that if fans got their butts in the seats they would spend accordingly. Now the market has changed so much that those promises cannot be kept. At the same time the Cubs are giving out $300 million in contracts this offseason. Many fans feel betrayed when promises are not kept while every other team who hasnt won a world series especially your arch rivals is spending money like crazy albeit rather wildly. KW has reacted to the market conditions very swiftly by stockpiling strong young arms. God forbid that none of these pitchers become viable ML talent. I believe in order to keep up with the market conditions the Sox will eventually have to budge off the 3 year limit on a pitchers contract if they ever find one worthy enough. If Buerhle rebounds with a good year he would be a good place to start.

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Jan 27, 2007 -> 10:23 PM) Wow! Thanks! It takes a big man. Williams makes nice with Buehrle I no longer see any reason to e-mail Brooks. Someone in the organization must have read our advice earlier today. Maybe that shouldn't be in green. "Maybe something will happen," added Williams of future negotiations with Buehrle, pointing out he didn't believe at one point long-term deals could be reached with Jon Garland, Jose Contreras or Paul Konerko, and they all were accomplished. "I was just asked a question what I felt at that time, and what I feel at this time. If this has shown me anything, it's shown me I've got to change the way I conduct business." You got your wish. Good timing with the poll.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 25, 2007 -> 06:20 PM) Wow, you don't think Erstad deserved to win the gold glove when he won it? The guy was an absolutely stud in CF at one point in time. Now I'm not saying he will be anywhere close to that in the outfield for the Sox, however I see no reason why he wouldn't be better than Pods in LF and better than Mack in center (if his ankle is healthy). I will say that Erstad has definitely lost a step or two in CF and doesn't have the same instincts he once had out there (due to minimal amount of games he's played in the OF the past couple season) but I would not be surprised to see him quickly regain his instincts. And no Erstad will never ever win another gold glove in CF. That said I think there is a solid chance Erstad hits over .270 (and while that isn't amazing by any means, it is a solid clip considering some of the intangibles he will bring with him). Thats what I've been saying in my last 4 or so posts on this subject. Apparently having intangibles makes you Rex Hudler. One of those intangibles is he has hit very well in the post-season.