Everything posted by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
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Pick one player
I know you asked for a turnaround based on who did bad last season but I think I'll just go with some guys that John Ely was high on for the bullpen. Garrett Schonele and Addison Coffey who both could spend most of the year with the Sox based on Ely' s glowing praise of them last year from the recent ReKap podcast I started a thread about.
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Birmingham Pitching Coach John Ely says Schultz grew 1.5 inches.
I wish McGuffey just would've kept a little more quiet and let Ely talk. He was extremely honest and had me thinking that kind of honesty may not be appreciated when he says he's told what to do and no one asks him for his opinion on if he thinks someone is ready or not. I thought that Navy Seal was supposed to enhance communication between departments. At the end you could see how excited Ely was about Elko but BA brought him up. Yes BA is Brian Anderson. Overall though a real good podcast. I get it McGuff talks like these guys are his best friends so it's a loose format but he still needs to let the guest talk because he's the one with the insight. Talked about just about every arm he saw however briefly, Schonele, Coffey, Carela, Eder, Schultz, Smith, Adams, Thorpe, Taylor, Iriarte, Cannon, Bush Sounds like he would've preferred Schonele and Coffey should've been brought up at the end of the year instead of Iriarte.
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CHGO layoffs...
Bears were over staffed because football gets the most coverage. They had 4 regular guys plus 3 ex players and one current player all making regular appearances. Then the Bears got bad .
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Birmingham Pitching Coach John Ely says Schultz grew 1.5 inches.
Clickbait title but its true. I know the board is skeptical of all things White Sox but just cannot help themselves either hating everything or looking ahead since things have perked up this offseason. SInce Getz made so many new hires recently , if you've been paying any attention at all, you've seen them in multiple podcasts all over Youtube . They all express optimism about creating a winner. I can hear the laughter now . John Ely is not a recent hire. He was the pitching coach at AA Birmingham Barons and he gives you his perspective on many of the pitchers he coached this past season. He particularly says very good things about Noah Schultz. I hope you all enjoy and have a wonderful holiday season !
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Soroka to Nationals. 1 year/9 Million
Nats may try him as a SP however the only times he did well as a Sox player was when he was used in relief. If he pitched longer his FB speed and command lowered. He's still young enough that maybe his arm can regain more strength but it wasn't evident with the Sox. The following paragraph is from https://southsideshowdown.com/white-sox-foolishly-let-former-all-star-pitcher-sign-with-nationals-in-free-agency In a rare instance of something going right for the 2024 White Sox, Soroka excelled as a relief pitcher. The right-hander wound up making 16 relief appearances, posting a sparkling 2.75 ERA across 36 innings. He regained his control (in a big way), too, striking out a whopping 60 batters in just 36 innings. This showing made him one of the more intriguing options on the free agent market this winter. ( this guy says he will be a SP but has there been anything posted that says that with some kind of quote from Nats management ?) Maybe he was signed to be their closer . Guess we'll find out .
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CHGO layoffs...
Garfien.Guess you don't watch Sox podcasts on YouTube. I watch them all and the Future Sox ones and the Locked On one also.
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CHGO layoffs...
I'm going to miss all those guys.The Sox ,Bears, and Hawks CHGO podcasts were the only ones I regularly watched so I'm familiar with all those guys and liked them all. Sox players like Duber too. Boysrn did a good job on the Hawks as did Moreano on the Bears. Herb Lawrence was likeable as well. I'm not even sure the lone survivor of CHGO White Sox will be doing it alone or just doing shorts rather than a whole show every other day or so. James Fegan who felt the axe with the Athletic too had respect for Duber.
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Sox Sign Bryse Wilson
Informative siphoning of MLBTR. I thought I was going to read all jokes.
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Schriffen does it again...
Lol I guess Soxtalk would not exist if fans weren't ultra whiny about things that wouldn't have even been a story before every idiot with a Twitter can criticize everyone on the air who happens to mispronounce names or get facts wrong. Being a professional is not about being flawless . He put in the work .His mouth just didn't translate it from his brain right. Are we all so un empathetic we cannot just say oops instead of getting hot about it. So many angry people in the cheap seats losing money on their betting apps and fantasy leagues drunkenly yelling at the TV and pretending to be Siskel and Ebert. Mellow out.
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State of the farm system
He can allocate the budget he gets but what is the budget he gets compared to other teams ? Questions like this must always be asked if you think you are fair. Not just compared to the big spenders but compared to teams who also are known not to spend much. The problem with the international amateur scouting has been around as long as Reinsdorfs been owner except for the brief time they got Robert and Abreu it's sucked. It's like the the DR doesn't exist for the Sox even though it's been providing top players to baseball for the entirety of Reinsdorfs ownership. I admit I'm as ignorant as the next guy which is why I feel I can't judge .Others like yourself feel you have everything you need. Since I have no say in the matter of what goes on I don't torture myself blaming the puppets under Reinsdorf .They are all handicapped likeany others do the same jobs in other organizations. When you do see international success stories on other teams in the Sox financial stratosphere do you ask yourself why can they get those players and we can't ? We almost had one with Tatis but someone snatched him away before most with the Sox even knew what they had. That's just sad. I'm more likely to think Getz will be a better GM than his previous job. We already see a series of hires related to infrastruture that most of the talking heads reporting and offering media related opinion in Chicago never judge these seem impress Getz has gone outside the organization and hired people that appear to be qualified. I have no idea how it'll turn out. Seems like a long term project and things change all the time.
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State of the farm system
I like this too.Its educational if you have any interest at all in some the new rhetoric of believing in Getz vision and the new voice of international amateur scouting and you're able to read the whole thing since you have to pay to read more than the 1st couple of paragraphs.
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State of the farm system
I appreciate this answer mainly because you gave it a lot of thought and did research . You didn't just shoot from the hip. I always wished I knew exactly how Tatis got traded . In my head it's like Hahn made the decision on his own but I keep thinking it doesn't or shouldn't happen that way .Like someone in player development should have been notified who strongly objected before the trade was completed or something Hahn could have seen in a scouting report that said highest upside of anyone we've ever signed internationally. I'm just not sure what Paddy actually thought about him or if he would have strongly objected. I also wonder with the retooling of the system and staffs with the ex Seal in charge of making sure all departments are communicating and run efficiently if that could safeguard getting rid of talented players who hadn't even played stateside yet or at least make it more collaborative. Will have to see how things play out and it's still hard to judge when you just can't know what restrictions you're getting from Reinsdorf which is always a huge monkey wrench in anything related to the job of any GM or Director of Player Development or International signings.
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Crochet Traded to Boston
And this stuff has been talked about for a while yet people will still say the Sox didn't develop him. The stubbornness of people to acknowledge the Sox can do something's right under Getz leadership is mindboggling. It was all Crochet .Period. I don't care what's out there talking about all the ways they helped him get better, Or even who Crochet gives credit to.
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State of the farm system
I think part of the reason you addressed Eddy is because you know he will respond fairly while the other guy won't be so kind. So it actually seems like you should address the other protagonists too. I don't spend a lot of time defending Getz but I do once in a while. I think it's much harder to judge middle management like when he was Director of Player Development for maybe 3 or 4 years. It's not like he's coaching these kids, or allocating the budget. He only can do so much and not one person here knows what he could or could not do. They just see that the farm system was ranked very high when he started , which he had nothing or little to do with since the 1st rebuild trades were mostly completed that made farm highly ranked already. Then they see who got drafted while he was in charge and little success from those drafted and the farm getting worse when all the top prospects get to the majors. Can anyone really point to a Sox farm director who had success and tell us why it happened ? Drafting is largely based on scouting reports and these days on more data or micro scouting, too. Drafting is also a group decision . We have no idea if players Getz thought should be drafted were actually drafted. We don't know anything except what we imagine we see or can point to and say from 2017 to 2020 they couldn't develop anyone . If Colson Montgomery becomes a star which Director of player development gets credit or any other Minor Leaguer who been in the system 3 or 4 years.
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Schriffen does it again...
A lot of times these guys get hired because they have a good voice and some knowledge or multiple sports and look pleasant enough on camera. These tweeters are morons. There's no one who knows the history of every teams great players. Robertsons been dead a while .He played long ago.of course Schriffen prepared so he learned about Robertson on short notice most likely. The trouble is even without weed or advanced age your mind doesn't always remember correctly and that's not good for an announcer. Sucks he said it wrong and had people screaming it's Robertson not Robinson you douchebag. He should have someone in his ear telling him he made a mistake after the 1st time but chances are the producers or someone back in the studio doesn't even know it's Robertson.
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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
Right you don't know & I don't know but it's Getz job to find out. I had read and even mentioned the pitching coach in a previous post. I had no idea who did what. If u say it was mostly the coach Iguchi went along with the plan. Iguchis isn't exactly unknown to Sasaki and if he's a good kid raised to honor his elders he likely respects his ex manager more than he might Getz.
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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
Look you can argue with me as much as you want I just told you I know the odds are long for any star player even on a fairly equal monetary contract to want to play on the Sox.If it makes you feel better to say I knew he wasn't coming here then great be happy being right. I'm just saying there's a way for it to happen if Sasaki has respect for Iguchi and Getz really wanted to get him that's the angle along with look what we did for Crochet. I'm not saying It'll work.. But it is a angle that no one else can use.
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Mike Tauchman to White Sox
Calling yourself a slave is more than complaining. He also had a ex girlfriend of a teammate complaining about Colas messaging her or something like that. I forget the exact details. Plus he obviously did something to piss off the coaches since despite making it into the top 100 briefly in one publication when he tore up A & AA and made it to AAA in his 1st minor league season he's been persona non grata with lesser talents getting chances over him.
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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
We all know the odds are long .I'm just pointing out that Iguchi was his manager and looked out for him and Iguchi really liked playing for the Sox and wants to come back. If Iguchi was a coach with the Sox it would be a familiar face and father figure and could be an invaluable mentor to Sasaki. If you don't think it holds any weight so be it. I think the kid would like to have Iguchi around and that's the best chance the Sox have if they can match the money and find ways to trade for more since their pool money is less no matter when he decides to sign.
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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
There are also monetary incentives to the players . If you recall Dylan Cease won the most money because of his 2022 season in the 1st ever pre-arbitration bonus pool based on the new CBA rules that was ratified in March 2022. Since players have 3 pre arbitration years they can technically earn extra money all 3 years based on WAR or finishing high in Cy Young and MVP voting. Julio Rodriquez and Corbin Carroll have won Multiple times and Bobby Witt just got an extra $3M . All teams throw in $1.67M into what amount to a $50M pool given to the top 100 pre arbitration players every year of the new CBA which runs through the 2026 season. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35219927/source-dylan-cease-headlines-new-pre-arbitration-bonus-pool https://apnews.com/sports/baseball-5dc4b61e33649fa5d08e17c3de87cf67 https://apnews.com/2023-mlb-pre-arbitration-bonus-pool-e42e78b212cf3ab0b86b36f66fbaa47f Those are the list of winners from 2022, 2023 & 2024 . The 2022 is not the full list since it's just an article about Cease getting the top reward and has a cursory list of the 2022 top rewards but not the full list that the AP puts out which is what the other 2 links are for 2024 and 2023. The new list comes out every December. I see Burger got an extra $356K for his 2023 season.
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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - Dodgers vs Blue Jays for Roki's heart
Sure but we do have some selling points to present if Getz chooses that path. For all we know Getz hasn't reached out to Iguchi. I don't know of any reporter who has asked him if he has yet in recent interviews during the many times he spoke at the Winter meetings. I'd be interested in knowing that. It seems like the best way to do it. Having Iguchi there representing and pumping up the Sox as a soft landing spot would be ideal.
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Nashville Mayor...
On the Sox moving since this is Soxtalk. JRs been planning for his kids to inherit the team when he died for ages. Sure he said he's open to selling but he's angling for funds for a new ballpark. There was never any real threat that he'd sell the team to Dave Stewart. Reinsdorf and Stewart both are full of it.
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State of the farm system
I believe you Greg . You're a good Catholic kid raised to respect people unlike the boomer giving you s%*# because he feels superior to you and basically loves to pick on the unpopular kids even as a grown man still acting like a bully on a fan forum.
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Nashville Mayor...
Haven't we closed the book on Nashville yet ?
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Mike Tauchman to White Sox
Colas probably isn't getting his shot because he's of questionable character as much as his inability to learn fundamentals. Maybe see if Brewers will take Colas for that left handed Cuban 1st baseman they have who does the splits stretching for throws, 6'6" 250lb Ernesto Martinez , Jr who is a very good fielder and athletic enough to steal 20 bases in AA but he's 25 and just resigned with the Brewers with an invite to spring training. They call him " El espectaculo". Colas probably has more upside but he does need out of the organization with Getz putting so much emphasis on good personalities. Martinez supposedly fits that description. It wouldn't hurt the Sox to have an excellent defensive 1st baseman who can run if they can get him to tap into his power more. He's likely a nobody but at this point so is Colas. Martinez although in AA seems closer to the majors with the Brewers than Colas is with the Sox. https://www.mlb.com/news/ernesto-martinez-jr-non-roster-invitee-brewers-2025-spring-training