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Imagine if the Sox do get Tyler Naquin Imagine if the Sox do get Tyler Naquin. You'll forever be called Rick Hahn !! And be scorned when he doesn't do anything to help the Sox win a World Series.Let's get a light hitting corner OF who's not showing hardly any power this year and can't field either !

To be fair we complain about everyone.

Right no sense saying we don't have the pieces. There's only 1 way to find out. Start the damn negotiations ! Do the best you can to keep Vaughn and can't be give up Kopech. Hopefully Eloy and not Vaughn and if you have to include Montgomery or Colas or both, who cares ,throw in Sheets and Burger too !

Never say never. Sox stuck him in A ball and now he's in AA he could mash there for 1.5 months and Sox promote him to AAA for September where he could mash for the rest of the season. Unlikely yes but there's even a chance if he keep mashing continuously that he called up some time in Sept. Early next year seems a real possibility unless he's traded. If you meant by a "few weeks left in the season" 2 months left in the season, that would be accurate. Birmingham's season ends Sept 18 and Charlotte's ends Sept. 28.

I haven't even brought Ketel Marte up at all because the D'backs extended him through 2027 for 5 yrs. $76M through age 33 season with a team option for another yr. D backs are loaded with LHH in the OF . The young ones are pretty good.

Leury is easier but I always see it as Luery. Then there's Hendricks and Pollock .Just think of it as a typo rather than a spelling error and put your anal probe away.

I said "more reasonable" as in more reasonable than acquiring Soto. And Happ is "more reasonable" because of the reasons you stated.

Likely if the Sox do make any moves that include a LH bat and a pitcher you have to think Martin Perez is a target based on how he does against the Astros, and Happ or Brian Reynolds are more reasonable LH bat targets. Lynn, no idea how he'll perform 2nd half. Kopech, who knows how long till he totally gassed especially if he's already starting to feel it. Cueto, no way he can be as good as his 1st half but the same could be said of Martin Perez. So start with getting a pitcher as quickly as you can and see who's left among eligible LH bats. Resigning Soto is a bigger pipe dream than trading for him. JR might not even be around in 2.5 years.

Sox are going down as the tigers and the rest of the division rises is that it ? The Nats want best value and they have to ascertain if the can work out a package that includes getting rid of Corbin or keeping him for the best return. It's not The GM's job to worry about who they sell the team to when he may be the 1st one fired regardless of any trades he makes . Eloy is not a centerpiece. If you put Montgomery and Colas in a package with him , that's a foundation for a trade. Why you take Eloy ? A rebuild will take enough time that a patient team can take on Eloy , work very closely on ways to keep him healthy. If he can put up one full season of 35 HR's and hit .300 they got themselves another decent trade piece. And it can happen as early as next season. Eloy is not currently dead. He's not a pitcher you have to wait a year on to return from TJ.

True a hotdog is whatever you wanna put on it like a ham sandwich probably better without ketchup but salsa, lettuce , tomatoes onions, mustard, spinach leaf, pickles, cucumber slices is all up to individual tastes.

Corbin has the same 2.5 yrs as Soto and his last 2 years are $60M + whatever the prorated rate of this years salary would be on his $23.4M he's getting this year . Unsure what the Luxury Tax salary would be going forward. Price was a useful piece. Corbin is not. He's racking up negative WAR quickly.

Ancient history.

There's good chance Corbin isn't in a deal for Soto. Why would the Nats want to diminish the return in prospects even eating a bit of the money ? No one should bail them out . It could happen but I'm pegging it as unlikely. Corbin is like an approx $70M (money owed this year and the remainder of his contract) version of Keuchel only a couple of years younger. He can't throw strikes and when he does he gets lit up like fireworks on the 4th of July. Even if they eat half the salary plus what you end up playing Soto for the next 2.5 years that's approximately $40+M per year for Soto since Corbin is essentially unplayable for a contender plus prospect capital.

His value is staying on the field and hitting well. We've seen value diminish with a guy like Eloy. I'll take the value Vaughn provides the Sox right now. The best ability is availability. He's improved so much from last year. Hopefully it's just the beginning of his hitting improvements.

I look at it this way. The Rangers have got tremendous value from Perez.He's their Cueto. However you are likely looking at regression from Perez and Cueto in the 2nd half and the Sox have no idea if Lynn can pitch effectively in the 2nd half . Plus there's the whole Kopech IP problem. Plus Martin Perez has slayed the Astros this year with his 2 starts against them. The Sox are going to need more starting pitching to contend not less this year and some salary relief to afford Soto for the next 2.5 years. Start with Eloy's salary and go from there. With Soto you don't need Eloy anyway. Trading Giolito just adds to the starting pitching problem. I think Giolito is a little too close to free agency for the Nats to want him.

Eloy for Martin Perez !! Who says no ?

Thinking too much. You don't worry about Eloy and Sheets right now. They are nothing burgers and as likely to be involved in upcoming trades as they are to stay with the Sox .If the Sox can't get Soto with the following players to choose from then they won't get him: Eloy,Sheets, Burger, Davis Martin, Montgomery, Colas, Sosa, Crochet and basically any other minor league guys the Nats want. Vaughn could be left out of the equation. Trade 7 guys for all I care , a mix of quantity and quality.

I know the contract isn't that much but it is if he continues to be who he is. The Sox don't need him now and they won't need him for the next 2.5 years if he gets you Soto . It might also allow you to keep Vaughn if Eloy, Montgomery, Colas and Davis Martin can get you Soto. AT least you save some money with that trade and the constant throbbing headache of his many deaths.

Right I was saying Eloy is fine to trade IF the Nats consider him salvageable but Eloy along with something like Montgomery,Colas, Davis Martin and maybe the Nats find it intriguing and it leaves the Sox playable roster untouched.

Well sure if u count it as 2 seasons which 2020 was not.

Or on the flip side waiting for a bad fielder to suddenly stop getting injured just to end up being a permanent DH or 1st baseman while we pay him just might be worth getting rid of while anyone has interest in him. Potential future value of Eloy be damned. Dump him and the money owed to him before it's too late.

That's a lot of salary to be picking up without getting rid of enough up unless you can tell me other ways the Sox shed more salary since the idiots tied themselves into 2 years of Pollock and threw money at an injured relief pitcher instead of getting a prospect for Kimbrel which could've helped in a Soto trade.

You're right ,can't do that, 2 valuable pieces of the current and future team is a no go. If the Nats do trade Soto by the deadline they will hold out till the bitter end hoping for other teams get involved and teams upping their offers and injuries to key components of contenders.

Have to be a lot more flexible than that usually in a big trade some pitching is involved but there's no way to include young 2 major components of the 26 man roster unless Nats think Eloy is salvageable. Burger sure, Sheets sure , Sosa, Crochet, Colas, Davis Martin, all other in the Sox Top 30 they all have to be in play.

It helps to think that the Sox have no sustained winning future anyway beyond the Soto years. By then we'll know if Moncada is a real player and if Eloy will ever stay healthy. lus Gilito will be gone, Lynn will be gone , whats left of the core will be lots more expensive. JR could live to be 100 but at some near future date he's likely to be replaced as Chairman further muddying the waters of future Sox teams.