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My wild trade proposal if they can secure Soto 1st. Or maybe before . Offer the Rangers Lance Lynn and a prospect for Martin Perez, a known Astros killer and upcoming free agent. Yes the Rangers might not be open to an older guy with his contract but it might depend on what other teams offer for Perez. Likely they get a decent prospect for him from one of the other AL contenders maybe even the Twins or Guardians. It would clear some salary for Soto's upcoming arbitration money. Or maybe just trade Lynn to whoever in the NL puts any prospect value in him and don't complete the trade unless the Rangers say yes to the Sox other offer for Perez. Problem is with the Sox farm they probably can't get both and probably can't even beat other offers for Soto and Perez unless its a quantity and quality package that includes some combination of players like Sheets, Burger, Crochet, Vaughn, Colas ,Montgomery, Carlos Perez, Sosa, and various others in our Top Ten prospects. If there's no way to get Soto shift to Bryan Reynolds or Happ plus Perez, which seems a lot more likely. I'd do the best I could to get Perez and keep him away from the Twins or Guardians.

True on the 1st part but talk about extending him is pointless and shouldn't factor into the equation of trading for him.

Translation : According to my sources, several teams such as: #Mets, #Yankees,#Cardinals, #Dodgers, #WhiteSox are preparing offers to try to take Juan Soto from the Nationals

Machado and Harper talk was huge contracts in the off season. Soto is not a huge contract. He'll be paid big money for 2.5 years because of arbitration but we're not talking $300M to get him. We're talking trading baseball players for him. 95% chance you're right, it doesn't happen, but Sox make more trades than they do signing people to $300M contracts so there's a better chance.

That was off season too so we had more time to run up the count. Then we had months now we have had literally less than a week since Soto turned down the Nats offer which then led to a lot more speculation he'd be traded.

It shouldn't be devastating though especially if it wins you a World Series in 2022,23 and 24. Odds are he will not get an extension from any team. Boras takes the majority of his high profile talent to Free Agency most of the time. Odds also are that if the Sox are going to win a World Series it'll be in the next2 or 3 years. Then the Sox go back to who they have always been, a non contender in a weak division with new ownership most likely ,which clouds the future even more. All these reports and tweets about what the Nats want and what they will get are 2 very distinct things.

Not really. Theoretically any team can trade for Soto given the right package. That doesn't mean you have to sign him to a long term contract. He's going to Free Agency no matter what. The team trading for him has to give up whoever they give up and pay him whatever he gets in his arbitration years which is likely to be in the $60M range. Then it's bye bye Soto and if the team that trades for him ends up sucking they can also trade him mid season of his final year before FA.

No one expects the Sox to pay Soto his worth when he reaches Free Agency. Heck they probably can't afford to pay him what he'll get in arbitration for the remainder of his contract. A trade would be for Soto's remaining 2.5 years only because Soto puts the Sox where we need to be for the contention window. I think the Sox record would be vastly improved had they had run production of the type Soto provides from the left side. There is a very slim chance it happens but it's not impossible. Let us have our fun speculating about it. Heck we have no idea how any team and even how the Sox value Eloy right now. He can still become a great hitter if he can ever stay on the field and he is cost controlled with an option through 2026. You'd have to think Eloy still might draw some interest from the Nats. One thing we know for sure is that the Sox won't be taking on Strasburg or Corbin's contracts and I'm doubtful any other team does also.

Exactly . Chris sale was traded and he was cost controlled for 3 years and how much did the Sox get for him ? A look back: https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/this-trade-in-history-chris-sale-to-the-red-sox/ Moncada is, at this time, considered the #1 prospect in baseball by Fangraphs (who rate him a 70, which is rare); #2 overall in the sport by both Baseball America and MLB Pipeline; and #5 by Baseball Prospectus. In other words, there is strong consensus that he’ll be a future star, and his stats validate it: at age 21, he put up a 156 WRC+ at High-A, followed by a 152 WRC+ at AA, which earned him a late-season cup of coffee with the big club. There’s some doubt about whether he’ll land at 2B or 3B, but no one doubts that his bat will be elite. You rarely see a prospect with a triple-digit valuation, but this one seems justified. *Kopech is, at this time, ranked #32 at Baseball America, #10 at MLB Pipeline, and #36 at Baseball Prospectus. Fangraphs rates him a 55 (on the traditional scouting scale of 20-80, where 50 is considered good). All of that suggests he’ll be a future impact arm – most likely as a #2 starter – although Eric Longenhagen of Fangraphs does note that comes with risk – he’s had some injury issues and off-field incidents, and his high-octane velo coupled with delivery issues suggests some reliever risk. Basabe was projected as maybe a 4th OF type and Victor Diaz was a throw in RHP. Soto has 2.5 years left and his salary is not cost controlled. He'll be getting record arbitration numbers. The Sox don't have a Moncada type and Montgomery might be too far away for the Nats to consider him a Top Ten Prospect but realistically that's where Montgomery is headed but he has to continue doing the things he's doing now for another season for him to reach the top 10. Colas isn't ranked in the Top 100 . He might get there at the end of the year if he continues to crush at AA. He had some good exposure getting to the Futures game and the players in that game are just the types the Nats want ,AA and AAA type high ranking players. Colas is older than Soto but a better athlete, better fielder easily, LH like Soto . He might have to crack the Top 50 prospects list but that isn't going to happen before the Nats trade him unless it doesn't happen by the deadline. Considering it's Cola's 1st year, he's adjusted well and hopefully he climbs through the system faster now. He's now at a level where he's age appropriate so raking at Birmingham would mean Colas might also be a fast riser and crack the Top 100 whenever they do them again in the winter. But as an older player in his 1st year , he just hasn't been around long enough and hadn't been seen throughout an American HS and College career to get highly ranked .He may already be a Top 50 guy by some scouts estimations but it won't show in rankings. The cost controlled salary Sale had means a lot more to potential suitors than Soto's whatever he gets in arbitration numbers means to his suitors . He has less years remaining than Sale did. But he is an everyday player whose hitting is so good it makes up for his fielding. He may never get to 7 fWAR again but for the next 2.5 he should be around 15 fWAR if he stays healthy which is always a concern . Sox got 1 great hitting and speed prospect and 1 very good pitching prospect a guy with a 50/50 chance of having a MLB career and a throw in pitcher who had 93 innings , nothing above A ball and nothing outstanding in his over all numbers but had a live arm. The Red Sox prospects in their system were ranked 1, 3, 8 and 28. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/red-sox-to-acquire-chris-sale.html

This one makes the most sense to me. At the All-Star game the announcers said there's a very real chance Soto is traded. They said Washington wants near MLB ready talent . I would suspect that means AA and AAA talent where the Sox prospects are the weakest or guys in their 1st 2 years of playing with 4 or more years of eligibility left. How many of these types they want or should get is highly speculative.

It's not a bad thing. I'd like to see an aggressive assignment for him next year. Maybe straight to A+. Would he be expected to go to ACL or Kanny next ?

HAHAHA Liam screaming at Julio Rodriquez "Gimme the ball, Gimme the ball !!" and Julio faked throwing it into the stands ! That should be it for Liam ,1 out.

Liam doesn't want to. Would rather see 1st time All-stars pitch before him.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=07/19/2022 Just the DSL game . They won. Chapelli was good. What new ? But he didn't hit his 1st HR.

Trevino is pretty cool. About as talkative as Lee Trevino used to be.

Yea the second part I agree with. I mean come on now when was the last time any pitcher with a great ERA and leading the league in K's didn't make the All-Star team ?

Even if he made the squad he couldn't pitch.

Do you also stay at a Holiday Inn Express ?

I'll be the oddball here since so many including myself love Montgomery but if he headlines a deal that gets the Sox Soto for 2.5 yrs., I'd be thrilled depending on who else goes. But no worries, odds of that happening are practically nil.

Exactly. I've always thought with later picks that great fielders who are fast but the hit tool questionable should be taken more. It's just harder to teach an iron glove to field better than it is to teach a highly athletic guy a few things he could try to improve his hitting, especially a guy like Sprinkle who was hitting well but then fell apart. Cameletti probably won't be ranked in the Sox top 30 picks. Probably won't even get an honorable mention. As an 8th rd draft pick he's going to have to prove it on the field to get any notice unlike top picks who get more leeway in that regard. Any hype you see now in the thread is just some guys messing around or picking out a favorite based on looks or beard or how their attitude translates to video. With the Sox money pool for the draft they spent a lot of it in the 1st 6 rounds and rounds 7-10 are seniors or 5th year Seniors who will sign for very little and are even considered throw away picks where the Sox can save some money and then take chances on guys considered unsignable in the later rounds by throwing extra money at them. (Usually HS kids with firm college commitments or holding out for a certain amount of money)

If anyone wants to see all the Sox picks of the 1st 10 rounds along with videos, tweets, how they were ranked coming in by various sources , instead of looking through the thread , here it is. https://www.soxon35th.com/2022-mlb-draft-all-white-sox-draft-picks/ That link will be updated with all other picks also.

If anyone wants to see all the Sox picks of the 1st 10 rounds along with videos, tweets, how they were ranked coming in by various sources , instead of looking through the thread , here it is. https://www.soxon35th.com/2022-mlb-draft-all-white-sox-draft-picks/

Italian Leprechaun.

This. He's not cost controlled. Sox have plenty to get him if they wanted but one would definitely have to be Montgomery. After that who knows .

Oscar Colas is about 3 months older than Soto so he isn't one of the 12 younger. 50 players selected for 2 squads for the Future Stars Game. 38 are older than Soto.