bmags Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Holy smokes Quote Skinny: While Montgomery wasnt ranked among the “big four” shortstops in the 2021 high school draft class he’s been very productive over the first half of the season. Montgomery possesses plus bat-to-ball skills and approach, as well as blossoming power—his max exit velocity in 2022 is over 112 mph. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Going to be fun to see him move up the ladder. I wonder if his success makes the Sox more likely to take another High Schooler in this year's 1st round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 He looks so good at the plate. He's also actually walking more and striking out less in A+ than in A ball so far. Small sample obviously, but he hasn't missed a beat since his promotion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 I really like getting that Exit velocity data. I think a concern was even though he was walking early on, his hits didn't have that pop that Kath's did. But that has started to change, and I think his power is still sneaky just because of his body type and levers. So we have this plus a very positive review from law on Colson's defense. Exit velo and defense is one of the harder stuff to gauge as fans in this forum so I'm pretty happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 I have to say this is really nice. When was the last draft pick that was actually a riser? Collins sniffed the top 100. Rodon/Madrigal/Vaughn just kinda maintained their draft value placement. Fulmer fell. Guys like Semien broke into that back 20 and that's where a lot have sat. This feels completely foreign. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Colas can't be that far outside of top 100s, can he? Have to imagine a good 2nd half for him along with graduations and he'll be in most top 100s by seasons end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I think Colas age and being only at A Ball is a huge factor that will keep him off the lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: I think Colas age and being only at A Ball is a huge factor that will keep him off the lists. Yup. Put those numbers up in AA and the conversation changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 This is really heartening. What a fast-riser. And now that there's tangible outside confirmation, the Sox will for sure know what they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 hours ago, bmags said: Holy smokes Exit velocity of 112 max, is holding his own as a youngster in his league, and is apparently a LEGIT MLB projectable SS? Great draft pick so far, could still flame out but to get a top 60 asset out of that spot as of today is great. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Please don't ship him off at the deadline. The team is done. Sell...don't buy. Keep ALL young left handed savages. A left handed legit SS with mega OBP skills and burgeoning power has mind boggling value. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 That's a great nugget about his max EV. 112 gives him plus raw power just from an EV perspective. 112 would put him in the 83rd percent tile amongst major leaguers, ahead of guys like Votto, Jose Ramirez, JD Martinez, Torkelson, Abreu, etc. Knowing he already has plus raw power in his toolbox and will likely get stronger as he gets older makes him that much more exciting as a prospect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 21 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Colas can't be that far outside of top 100s, can he? Have to imagine a good 2nd half for him along with graduations and he'll be in most top 100s by seasons end. Assuming he’s promoted for the second half and hits in AA, then I’d wager large money he’ll be a top 100 prospect at a few places. And I still think Ramos can sneak in somewhere, probably Fangraphs given they already had him as our #1 prospect. Kid has maintained his walk rate while also improving his K rate & ISO as a legit 20 year old in High A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSideRock Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Would love to see Colas continue to improve in AA now that he has been promoted and crack in that top 100 with Montgomery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSideRock Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 What do we think is Montgomery's floor/ceiling at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 So uh, BPro has him #40 overall. Do not fucking trade him Hahn. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 7 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: So uh, BPro has him #40 overall. Do not fucking trade him Hahn. Savage Baseball Scouts ranks him #1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 11:13 AM, SouthSideRock said: What do we think is Montgomery's floor/ceiling at this point? Corey Seager was the popular draft comp. Seems like a reasonable ceiling, although Colson might have better OBP numbers than Seager. Top 5 MLB SS is definitely possible at this point. Floor? Idk. He COULD flame out at AA, I suppose. Not sure who a good name to attach to Colson for a floor. I guess the floor profile for him would be an average MLB defensive shortstop who can draw walks but never develops much power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 18 hours ago, Quin said: Savage Baseball Scouts ranks him #1 Does he have that dog in him tho? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Montgomery should be practically untouchable from Hahn's point of view. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, KrankinSox said: Corey Seager was the popular draft comp. Seems like a reasonable ceiling, although Colson might have better OBP numbers than Seager. Top 5 MLB SS is definitely possible at this point. Floor? Idk. He COULD flame out at AA, I suppose. Not sure who a good name to attach to Colson for a floor. I guess the floor profile for him would be an average MLB defensive shortstop who can draw walks but never develops much power. Floor is probably 3B and backup SS that doesn't really have enough pop to be anything more than a 1-2 WAR player that is a part time starter. Ceiling probably legit MLB SS with enough power and a Semian like profile so 5-7 WAR All-Star type. Pretty big range of outcomes still for a guy at his level. Still, a helluva draft pick and have to give the scouting team credit they nailed this one. Now it's up to the coaches and Colson to make the most of his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Montgomery should be practically untouchable from Hahn's point of view. Yes, but what about from Tony's point of view? He's the one holding the power and he doesn't give a damn about the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) There’s no reason at all for Hahn to be messing with our best prospects. That’s just lazy. The second Montgomery gets out of this organization he’ll be at top 20; Not because of some superior development plan, but because the White Sox do not hype their prospects, whether by choice, or whether they just simply don’t know what they have. Edited July 15, 2022 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 9:00 PM, SoCalChiSox said: Please don't ship him off at the deadline. The team is done. Sell...don't buy. Keep ALL young left handed savages. A left handed legit SS with mega OBP skills and burgeoning power has mind boggling value. I'll be the oddball here since so many including myself love Montgomery but if he headlines a deal that gets the Sox Soto for 2.5 yrs., I'd be thrilled depending on who else goes. But no worries, odds of that happening are practically nil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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