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A bit overly dramatic. There are many horrifying things in this world. This is not one of them.

Is it a reason to panic ? Nope. They still have to hire his coaches. I don't think it's necessary to contact every player in the 1st month of hire. There's a ton of things the Sox and LaRussa will be active with this off season . Let them get a coaching staff in place 1st so there's a bit more to talk about with his players or maybe get an idea of who the Sox will retain, acquisition targets, payroll. We all have questions about that so maybe the players do too and LaRussa might want to be better prepared on those fronts Heck he could wait til around Thanksgiving and tell them all how thankful he is to get the opportunity to manage each and every one of them.

The OP was talking about being a manager. Front office personnel are different. I saw nothing in my post to say LaRussa could empathize with his players. Texsox said " None of Tony's playing experience helped ". That statement is an absolute to which I argued LaRussa may not agree with. I usually disagree with absolutes unless LaRussa himself had said that. Apparently LaRussa is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't . Name a few black players and it's stereotypically. Don't name enough and you are slighting some. While I agree that RR was used as a scapegoat for way too many White Sox problems, that is neither here nor there. LaRussa's 1st stint as Sox manager also means nothing. Comparing RR to Ozzie's or LaRussa's tenure and stating how long it took each to make a playoff appearance while accurate also means nothing. As you accurately pointed out RR didn't have the pitching Ozzie did so you acknowledge that different personnel in entirely different seasons and tenures have much different results so how long it took LaRussa vs. RR is mute based on your own reasoning. Also while true that short responses are better for a message board insulting the board for that seems odd. Post what you will and if no one reads it or responds to it so be it. I was not in favor of LaRussa being named manager nor the process that led to it. I have stated my piece on it as much as I care to. It's time to get down to the business of winning . That is what I think most of the board cares about. Any underlying social issues will work themselves out in due time. Of course the decision could backfire just as it could end in satisfactory results.

Simple, because Springer is a luxury and the luxury we need to spend on is pitching.

I'm not sure LaRussa would agree that none of his playing experience helped. You learn the game through playing the game . Even at the lowest levels by little league coaches you learn the value of doing things the proper way, baseball terminology , team work, fundamentals. Every year you play, study or coach you refine your process and approach as a player or a teacher of the game. Of course someone can learn these things . There are plenty of baseball fans with great knowledge of the game who might not have played a single inning in organized baseball. I never did . I played in the concrete jungle of the inner city using street corner sewers covers as bases , asphalt playgrounds as playing fields and stone drawn strike zones on building walls , never using a hardball with seams except to play catch or hit in a park every so often. I grew up loving baseball but l never really played it. Your early years doing something are probably the most formative. The best teacher is actually doing it. No amount of study can replace that.

It might be light but but they will get at least one very talented piece.

Cleveland is not giving up. They have proven to be effective at retooling. They have made decent trades . I will never say never but I'd put the odds of getting Lindor at 1000 to 1.

Yep Yadi is going to have to come to grips that he will be making less money, play less and is closer to becoming a coach than he is to getting what he wants as a player.

Or did you mean to say you are not Not Cishek ? The old Shell game ? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn express ? Bananas.

I'm sure you know he could be pulling our legs.

Sox are going to have to take a look at all viable starting pitching candidates not just the popular ones thrown around here. Plenty of them will have successful seasons next year. There are always a couple of big surprises. No one knows definitively who it will be. Plenty of people like to talk in absolutes like some things will never happen . Just look through the LaRussa thread. You will see plenty of examples of that.

Ken Berry a childhood favorite and 50 years later Robert now an adulthood favorite.

It did at the trade deadline but apparently TX wanted the moon or ,you know ,we didn't think he was necessary. I don't think most of the board was in favor of it then. I was very vocal that it made more sense then than it does now since we can chose some FA instead and we could've gone very far in the playoffs with him. No one who is still pissed about losing to the A's but didn't want Lynn during the season should still be upset.

Are you advocating that Tony Robbins could be a baseball manager ? I think that in order to have "great abilities to relate to players" you need to have an extensive background in baseball .How can you relate to them without having many of the same experiences they have had ? Statistical information is great and should have a great deal to do with how you make decisions but observations where you apply your baseball wisdom are just as important. With either stats or baseball acumen decisions can go awry since there is never a 100% right choice either way. The only right decision is the one that works which means all managers will be 2nd guessed time after time.

Renteria ?

Not a whole helluva lot is the answer you are looking for.

LOL I guess it depends on the source of the lyrics. The source I checked says otherwise. You're probably right but the point was if we got scrutinized about our brain function every time we couldn't remember where we left our keys as much as a manager does about his decisions in the dugout we'd all be accused of losing brain cells at a pace of a 76 year old. But either way I feel fine. I do love that song though so good choice.

Jerry's reputation is on the line ? I'd have to know what that reputation is before I could declare it's on the line. If I had to venture a guess as to his established reputation, I'd say he is a very smart man, loves baseball and is loyal but loves being smart with money more. The Sox losing more than they win is an already established pattern in his ownership. I doubt a few more years of that pattern will sully his reputation in the rest of his time left .

Good post except when we get to your last sentence. 1st you say there's a decent chance it works out which I take to mean the Sox already have enough talent that in the years LaRussa manages that the Sox win a Championship ? I actually can't see how that would be blind luck. If the talent is there and if the Hall of Fame is truly reserved for the best ever then LaRussa isn't a terrible choice if given a fair shake by the players. It's not like the Sox hired an organ grinder monkey to manage the team .Yes I have said both LaRussa and Hinch would've been bad choices and would make the Sox look idiotic but what looks idiotic now ,in the inspection stage , doesn't mean it won't end up being a smart move in the end of the season review . He's here . He isn't going anywhere (God willing ). So now it's time to give the guy a chance to do what he was hired to do . If I want the players to give the guy a fair shot then I have to do the same.

You know it isn't quite the end of the world as we know it. I mean if we want to start thinking every time we forget or make a mistake after a certain age we are to be pitied and thought to be unable to function in our jobs we might as well all be killed when we hit our 30th birthday like in Logan's Run. By the way the last 2 words are "and aeroplanes. " Is a typo or incorrect spelling a sign that your cognitive powers are waning ? I know he's a terrible choice but if you are making the argument that he's not sharp enough to manage a ball club then that pig just won't fly.

My mama said, "you can't hurry love No, you'll just have to wait" She said, "love don't come easy But it's a game of give and take"

Hey good list but I don't see how you could leave off not only how players on our team feel about the hire but players around baseball, specifically free agents. You could make an argument that money talks loudest I suppose when it comes to the majority of Free Agents but it just makes the organization look soooooooooooooooooo ridiculously idiotic. How our players feel is the main concern. The fact that the Sox now have to reach out to reassure them to give LaRussa a chance shouldn't have to happen.Every disagreement with LaRussa among players now has the potential to turn into hatred for the organization. Lucky for Hahn he tied up our young stars to longer deals because he's probably not going to be able to do that now.

I was re-reading the thread and your post got no likes or anything but you really nailed it when you said you didn't get the memo that the Reinsdorf Loyalty Program had ended so the overtures to LaRussa had to be legit. Sometimes being anti Jerry means you are correct. Hiring LaRussa put your arch rival SS2K5 into a deep tailspin.

Which street corner are on now so I can come by throw some nickels in your tin cup ?

I think all of you should be as ashamed of yourselves as the guy who called it by the name we all understand should not be used. This always seems to be the case that instead of educating, we voice our disgust and that leads nowhere. If the ignorant need correcting do it. Educate them. By voicing your disgust you are only saying "Look at me I am an enlightened person. " We all must do our part to make the world a better place and shouting opposition is better than nothing but not as good as applying rational thought and education or in many instances re-education to the process. Instead of using your own words that might show your disdain use a well written article on the subject such as this one. https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/23074/