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So what's the amount where he is expendable ?

Apparently he only thinks about the rest of his career when he really has to, not realizing the rest of your career is dependent on everything you do up to that point. He's his own worst enemy.

Propose a trade.to get JP , then another trade to get rid of Mazara .Keep in mind the Sox already gave up a prospect for Mazara Could they get an equal prospect back for him ? Who still needs help in a corner OF ? Cardinals ? Giants ? Do the Sox really need to trade 2 prospects for a RF for 1 year when they already traded one prospect for 2 years ?

30 red flags.

If he follows James on a regular basis at least he knows the right guys to pay attention to when they tweet.

You guys are nuts. All I want is to win but you want a circus freak show too. I'm all for fun but understand this. If the Sox get Puig it's because everyone else decided to look the other way while he was drowning . If he does one little thing to rock the boat he will be thrown back into icy cold water filled with sharks without hesitation. You'll be singing a different song when someone break Moncada's arm in a bench clearing brawl started by our swaggy team. This isn't the NFL quite yet. The 49ers ended up looking like morons dancing and posing in the end zone after the interception. I told my friend watching the game with me WTF are they doing this game isn't over yet. 21 straight points by KC later they were losers. Winning is still the most fun you can have.

I already told you ( not you specifically). Gio Gonzales strike 3. 3 times a Sox 3 times never played for the Sox.

#88 for Robert. He apparently likes 8's. Hit 8 HR at Winston Salem in 2019. 8 HR at Birmingham. 16 HR (8X2) at Charlotte. Extension worth $88M if maxed out. Might as well predict he hits .288 88 RBI, 88 RS, ,488 SLG .788 OPS, 28 Doubles, 8 triples, 28 HR . Hmm that would make his OBP only .300 wouldn't it ? Maybe with his fielding he will get a 3.8 or 3.2 (8x4) WAR. Hope he doesn't K 188 times.

Kind of weird NOT Cishek mentioned Pederson and Stripling since no one is saying that deal is dead.

Isn't it obvious that the Sox would give up Gio Gonzalez thus having had him 3 times without ever playing for the Sox ? ?

He'll be a good follow in the AZL this year.

Is this the 1st IFA pitcher on whom they spent more than $1M ?

Reported by who ? James Fox already mentioned he heard it was Bummer. He's the most reliable ear to the Sox FO here and you weren't buying it. So I assume you have a list of guys you would believe who will tell you details of a deal that didn't happen ? That's not asking for much.

When the trade is actually reported as finished and we know all the moving parts this can be addressed.

What a crock . Sox didn't need another Cuban anyway did they ? Do 2nd round draft picks get $4M ?

At least you tried to figure out a reason for why the Sox would do it. I'll make everyone happy and include Mazara. He can break out in Colorado and hit 50 HR's there. Yohan (sic) to RF . Madrigal stays at 2nd base. Rocks include money and P Ashton Goudeau. Cease, Mazara, Seby Zavala, Bernardo Flores to the Rox. PS. I'm just screwing around since every thread worth commenting in has been beat to death.

If anything Boston would be the team to hold it up. The JDM contract had some provisions in it regarding a previous foot injury. Not sure how much the Betts part of the deal is affected. I think they are pleased with that . They have to work out something with the Twins but they think they can work it out. If not they might go to another 3rd team.

A link to this info would be helpful. Thanks.

Looks like the meds on Gaterol is delaying the deals being completed.

WTF are you babbling on about ? I rarely in the past give the FO credit for anything. I've rambled on and on about how poor they have been in so many areas right along with you. I don't think many here wanted Mazara as a 1st choice. I was partial to Corey Dickerson. The fact that I now support Mazara just means I see the logic in the move and it's time to get the season started and stop with all the whining and get behind the team. You have no idea why the Angels had a crack at Pederson or why the Sox didn't get him. I listed some things that could have been obstacles. Maybe they just didn't want him. Maybe they didn't even get a chance to make an offer. Maybe they we're good ,thank you but no thank you. It was almost 2 months ago the Sox traded for Mazara. Rosters are a lot more set now than they were then as we approach spring training. Yet you want to compare a December trade from TX who could have waited much longer to trade him, to the Dodgers trading Joc in a heartbeat because they acquired a superstar RF in early February. There weren't even rumors of a Joc trade. It just came quickly as a consequence of acquiring Betts. You don't know anything about it and neither do I and anyone pretending that it's some kind of travesty the Sox didn't get him doesn't know anything either.

Might as well include 25 years old since that's what Mazara will be. And you can make a list of 100's of players who's best years happened after 24.

Except that they already have a RF , they would have had to beat the Angels offer in a very short window of time, then trade Mazara for God knows what since every team would know they are stuck with 2 LH starting RF's and look foolish in the process . It's always just so simple isn't it ? I'm not even sure that trade is done yet. Ohh maybe there's still hope to get him . Cling to it fellas. Cling hard. So far it looks like Pederson and Stripling for Rengifo and 2 prospects which makes all these arguments more bizarre because no one can say for sure that the Angels got a great deal.

I have no idea if Joc will be better than Mazara in 2020. I'm fine with Mazara and his upside. I wasn't fine with the Sox taking away a current good ML player with years of control for Pederson like Bummer. I was fine with trading a MiL player like Walker who is probably 2 years away when they have 4 other MiL OF's who could also pan out in less time. Mazara is our Rf . If anyone wants to they can cry about Joc getting away for less. Cry about all the teams that passed on Trout and so many others in the drafts, Cry about Tatis and Semien. There is a lot more things concerning the Sox than whining about how Joc ,Castellanos and Ozuna got away when they are all likely to be around to sign next year. If this doesn't jibe with your rules for how I see the future so be it. You can't make up rules for me based on how you think I am thinking. Some players are more expendable than others based on many reasons. Peace.. I'm done.

No Balta I didn't make any rules. I said i was concerned more about the future. There are no rules that go along with that. You are the one putting limits on how I see the future. Please show me this list of rules so I can show them to everyone. I think Joc for 1 year was dumb. I think Mazara has upside just like any prospect they are hoping realizes upside. Him reaching it is good for the future. Any of them reaching it is good for the future among the 25 or so other players on the 40 or in AAA or AA who might be useful in 2021 and beyond.. Any one of the players signed for more than 1 year is good for current and 1or 2 or 3 future years. You are just arguing to catch me in some kind of flaw in my logic. You aren't even arguing for one player over the other. I really did used to like you as a poster now I have no idea where you are coming from.

There's no actual outrage it's the same 2 guys who always complain about Mazara. Not a lot of people wanted Mazara but now it is what it is and there's a good deal of upside . He is younger than Giolitio, and Lopez. Hes about a year older than Kopech, Sheets and Burger and less than a year older then Cease and Luis Gonzalez. Jimmy Lambert is older . It takes a lot of talent to make it to the Bigs at 21 yrs old. They hope he makes some progress despite his production being consistently average. There is upside to him just like the guys close to his age that still haven't done anything the Sox are also counting on. The only difference is in the years of control. And you are right it's not worth discussing it any more.