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Are you unhappy with McCann or Colome ? Or did u just bump an entire thread for a particular reason ? Don't get me wrong I like threads getting bumped because it makes me look pretty smart. Hahn if you are out there you can consult with me and I'll keep it a secret. just give me a salary and I'll sign a clause to keep my mouth shut forever. I expect you to do your due diligence on my 10 year history of posts that should back me up.

Be good Yolmer.

Thank me very much.

Time for White Sox to score.

Hey I know I've been at odds with you but I think you serve a purpose. Maybe what you say is too often repeated but it's ironic that people will get on you to stop whining in the same thread where people whine about Renteria which they do as often as you bring up Hahn. Frankly what Hahn?Reinsdorf do hurts the team a lot more than anything Renteria does. Maybe he's just trying to get guys good at it so when they do have to do it, they can do it. Maybe he believes truly that it's a character building thing and that's its not all about increasing your odds of winning in a rebuild.

That's nothing new. There's always somebody who wants nothing to do with just about everybody. Some are proven right some wrong. I think over the last few years I have a pretty good record on guys I would have wanted as free agents panning out when many others said the same stuff as you. They need a lefty, he's still relatively young and knows a thing or 2 about pitching and especially pitching in the post season. It's not like there are going to be a whole hell of a lot of pitchers available. He's very similar to the Cubs Lester in a lot of different categories including the amount of postseason innings pitched before entering his free agent year. He's a long shot of course but I see nothing wrong with going after a proven guy who instantly becomes your 2nd best pitcher if you believe the Giolito we see now is here to stay. Why middle tier ? Who middle tier ? Wouldn't you prefer a guy with the most upside ?

Was just watching the morning show MLB Central on the MLB Network and they talked a while about the game last night. John Smoltz talked about Giolito and basically said everything we already know about how he changed his delivery. He also brought up the concern which PTATC had brought up that shortening the delivery places more stress on the shoulder. Mark DeRosa talked about Eloy and comped him with Albert Belle as a big man who went into somewhat of crouched stance and did a side by side video comparison. I have to admit their swings looked pretty similar. So just out of curiosity I looked at Belle's early years with the Indians. He came up as a 22 year old and basically sucked for 218 AB's At 23 he was back in the minors with a brief stint with the Tribe. At 24 he had a very good season. 25 through age 31 . 7 seasons. 6 of those he got MVP votes and was a 5 time All -Star Eloy is 22.

LOL yea if I was truly a bastard and had nothing better to do I could make a few different folders based on many different areas like who to sign as a FA,who to trade for,which prospects will flop, who we should draft and make a lot of people look foolish. However we all look foolish over and over if you spend enough years on this board.It's just some do it in a very short period of time. You could also do it on how right many people are. Sometimes I do bump old threads just for curiosity . The Samardzija threads when the Sox traded for him were all pretty positive with many also thinking the Sox could resign him before free agency. I'm also curios to see what everyone thought about Frankie Montas but I won't be bumping any threads any time soon. You could fill a book on how many hated signing McCann or gave up on Giolito and Moncada.

Exactly but I wouldn't expect anything great from that rotation. Keuchel would just be insurance for the young arms for next year. Then in the off season you could add Bumgarner too. Remember Cease, Giolito Kopech and Dunning all have had Tommy John surgery. I understand people thinking we can win the division but it's a long shot. Eloy would have to get hot, Moncada, Anderson , ABreu, McCann all still have plenty to prove and 2nd halves can be just as bad as some of the good 1st halves. If by some miracle the Sox actually made the playoffs Cease wouldn't pitch in the playoffs ,they would shut him downdue to having reached an innings pitched limit much like the Nats did one year with STrasburg. These last 2 games were great and all but let's not forget the Astro's were missing Springer and Altuve 2 of the best players in the AL.

How is it different ? You could make a very long list of good hitters who failed somewhere along the line(ar) growth path. Everyone of these guys have the talent ., it's making that talent work that's the difference. Giolito just did what many others with the same stuff fail to do. It's a very fine line between success and failure or what turns failed starters into successful relievers. Why does a late round pick like Buerhle succeed when 1st round picks fail ? Pitching is never all about stuff. It's knowing what to do with it and finding a way to do it consistently.

I wouldn't sign him with the idea of winning anything. I mean it could be an added bonus but I wouldn't count on it. The Sox are going to need veteran pitching help in Cease and Kopech's rookie seasons and Keuchel just might be the best pitcher out there who could come relatively cheap for a year and a half. Offer 2019, 2020 and an option for 2021 with a decent buyout for him.If someone wants to give him guaranteed money for 2.5 years then just say no.

This coming from the guy that saw a good pitcher in a terrible pitcher in Giolito. You don't even get to see any of these kids. And that's just what many of them are , kids.When we were their ages we were doing bong hits and learning why we shouldn't drink so much.

My goodness. I know the AA OF has been bad and we all have a tendency to live in the moment but we all sure expect a lot of linear growth while we hear a lot of growth isn't linear stuff all the time. “Failure should be our teacher, not our undertaker. Failure is delay, not defeat. It is a temporary detour, not a dead end. " Denis Waitley "Failure isn't fatal, but failure to change might be" - John Wooden “Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly.” - Robert F. Kennedy

Nope a quick google search turned up this "My older brother was kind of a mentor to me, and he was a die-hard White Sox fan growing up and wouldn't let me be anything else," said Tilson, https://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/baseball/2014/07/23/springfield-hopes-tilson-sparks-sputtering-offense/13031129/

The last 2 games were sweet as honeysuckle. We haven't seen a game pitched like that since Sale left. Moncada with a big double. Eloy with his 3rd homer in 2 nights.McCann got a hit and SB. Yolmer a silent 3 for4 .Tilson 1 for 3 with a walk though one AB was wasted by trying to advance runners with a bunt . Last 4 starts Gio 0.64 ERA . Yonder (who else) the only starter without a hit.

Even when Gio was bad last year. He always had a knack for using the high fastball as a K pitch. It's one of the reasons why I always despised those saying he's a headcase. It was always apparent he had a good idea how to pitch , he just couldn't throw it where he wanted due to being unable to control his long limbs with any consistency.

That's why I wanted him in the off season. He's a professional hitter when he isn't hurt and swings and misses are rare for him. You may not be watching a Mike Trout but you are watching a true talent with the bat.

LOL You're welcome. I just can;t help but look at a guy like Bellinger. Very athletic, can play just about anywhere I'm sure, so good with the glove. He learned some hard lessons in the playoffs made adjustments and now he gets to hit off a bunch of right handers after the adjustments and is out og his mid good now. Yelich is another guy that not many people thought could get as good as he is. I also think that as a lefty facing righties if you have good plate discipline it's better and easier to keep that plate discipline facing guys you can see the ball better against.

Does that HR mean he is going to hit another one before the game is over ?

Good job. I hate Bregman because he represents all that the Sox can't accomplish along with Correa and Springer. I know they had higher draft picks than the Sox have had but they picked some good ones. (and developed them too.)

Metaphorically.

Is that Leury or Avi batting 5th ?

He better start hitting some HR's then in a hurry because he's not going to get those AB's needed to vest that option.

I don't follow the draft as much as many of you do so I will never gripe about the selection . From reading much of the thread. I'm not sold on Vaughn probably just because he's a 1st baseman. Like many we hope Rutschman falls but that's highly unlikely. I know the whole BPA available argument but who really knows who that is.? Sure you can combine a lot of different things to say who is the LIKELY BPA but it's still educated guesswork. I'd have no problem with Abrams or Witt or even Bleday, Greene or Bishop. Kind like the idea of getting some more left handers in the system. Some of the best teams have a lot of good hitting lefties and the Sox have very few. I know I know BPA never for need. I just think lefties offer more upside just by being left handed.

This is on MLB network tonight. If you have a Roku TV and have cut the cord on pay TV you can still get MLB network on Roku on whats called Gade TV.It's also good because you can get hockey on CBC on it also. It's basically a foreign station broadcaster, How and why MLB network is on it I don't care . I'm just glad I found it.