May 20, 20196 yr 2019 Alonso through 170 PAs - .181/.282/,329/.611 2011 Dunn through 208 PAs - .184/.331/.333/.664 WHO SAYS WE CAN'T RELIVE 2011
May 20, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: 2019 Alonso through 170 PAs - .181/.282/,329/.611 2011 Dunn through 208 PAs - .184/.331/.333/.664 WHO SAYS WE CAN'T RELIVE 2011 And the difference: one guy is in the middle of the final year of his contract (with a vesting option) and one guy was awful in the first of a 4-year deal. One is 100000x easier to get rid of than the other. Just give it another month at the most.
May 20, 20196 yr 14 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: 2019 Alonso through 170 PAs - .181/.282/,329/.611 2011 Dunn through 208 PAs - .184/.331/.333/.664 WHO SAYS WE CAN'T RELIVE 2011 I have confidence that Alonso can get that avg up to .184 in those 38 more at bats
May 20, 20196 yr 17 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: And the difference: one guy is in the middle of the final year of his contract (with a vesting option) and one guy was awful in the first of a 4-year deal. One is 100000x easier to get rid of than the other. Just give it another month at the most. Most of us thought Dunn's signing was an unfixable disaster. He actually became somewhat tolerable with time. I don't think Alonso's situation is quite that dire. I would bat him lower in the order and release him if things don't get better by ASB. Taking up space from the young guys getting AB's and having Jimenez in outfield is more troubling than his dismal performance.
May 20, 20196 yr 38 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: 2019 Alonso through 170 PAs - .181/.282/,329/.611 2011 Dunn through 208 PAs - .184/.331/.333/.664 Woof. Thats terribad.
May 20, 20196 yr At least Dunn could take a walk! Give me 2011 Adam Dunn over 2019 Alonso all day errrrday.
May 20, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, soxfan2014 said: And the difference: one guy is in the middle of the final year of his contract (with a vesting option) and one guy was awful in the first of a 4-year deal. One is 100000x easier to get rid of than the other. Just give it another month at the most. I hope you're right but I'll have to see it to believe it that the Sox will eat nine million bucks.
May 20, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: I hope you're right but I'll have to see it to believe it that the Sox will eat nine million bucks. It's much much much more likely than them paying him another 9 million bucks
May 20, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: I hope you're right but I'll have to see it to believe it that the Sox will eat nine million bucks. It's like 6 at this point. It's pocket change in the grand scheme of things. The hold up is likely Hahn trying to save face in the next meeting with JR. Of course I'd imagine even at his age JR can read a slash line and ask his GM why Yonder is on the roster. Edited May 20, 20196 yr by chitownsportsfan
May 20, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: 2019 Alonso through 170 PAs - .181/.282/,329/.611 2011 Dunn through 208 PAs - .184/.331/.333/.664 WHO SAYS WE CAN'T RELIVE 2011 Sometimes I think Kenny and his staff may not be very good at evaluating talent.
May 20, 20196 yr Whether or not we think he will snap out of it, there's still no good reason to bat him cleanup
May 20, 20196 yr Author 15 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: I was told his advanced metrics look good and he’s been fine. You're gonna have a low BABIP when the defenders know you can only hit it to 1/3rd of the field
May 21, 20196 yr 20 hours ago, Greg Hibbard said: You're gonna have a low BABIP when the defenders know you can only hit it to 1/3rd of the field Will never understand how professional baseball hitters can not hit baseballs to all parts of the field. How is your bat control so poor you can only pull the ball?
May 21, 20196 yr 21 hours ago, Greg Hibbard said: You're gonna have a low BABIP when the defenders know you can only hit it to 1/3rd of the field Yeah but not that low. The shift takes about 40 points off your expected BABIP.
May 21, 20196 yr Alonso has put up higher than a 1.1 fWAR one time in his career with a 2.4. Trading for him for any other reason than getting Machado considering he is being paid more than ever would be dumb. No surprise he brings little to no value, but this bad is a surprise.
May 23, 20196 yr Author UPDATE 2019 Alonso through 181 PAs - .178/.287/,318/.606 2011 Dunn through 208 PAs - .184/.331/.333/.664 Will Alonso have more walks than hits in 2019? He has 24 walks and 28 hits.
May 23, 20196 yr 9 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said: UPDATE 2019 Alonso through 181 PAs - .178/.287/,318/.606 2011 Dunn through 208 PAs - .184/.331/.333/.664 Will Alonso have more walks than hits in 2019? He has 24 walks and 28 hits. Hopefully.
May 23, 20196 yr Alonso is massively unlucky. He has a good walk to K ratio, above average exit velo, good groundball rate but the hits are not coming. wOBA: .269 xWOBA: .330 (league average is .316) Babip: .195 This should improve a lot in the second half
May 23, 20196 yr 7 minutes ago, dominik-keul@gmx.de said: Alonso is massively unlucky. He has a good walk to K ratio, above average exit velo, good groundball rate but the hits are not coming. wOBA: .269 xWOBA: .330 (league average is .316) Babip: .195 This should improve a lot in the second half Again....he isn't that unlucky, he is just super easy to defend. He hits the ball in the same spot 90% of the time. The shift kills him. This isn't something that is going to normalize. He'd likely be hitting like .250 if teams played him straight up, but they don't and they won't.
May 23, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Again....he isn't that unlucky, he is just super easy to defend. He hits the ball in the same spot 90% of the time. The shift kills him. This isn't something that is going to normalize. He'd likely be hitting like .250 if teams played him straight up, but they don't and they won't. This is just wrong. Even with the shift your expected BABIP is 250-260. That means he's nearly 70 points off shift league average. Its more than one SD from the mean - that's very unlucky. So yes it absolutely should normalize. Edited May 23, 20196 yr by Look at Ray Ray Run
May 23, 20196 yr Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This is just wrong. Even with the shift your expected BABIP is 250-260. That means he's nearly 70 points of shift league average. Its more than one SD from the mean - that's very unlucky. Do you watch the games? He hits 9 out of 10 balls between 2nd base and 1st base where there are 6 defenders.
May 23, 20196 yr 12 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Again....he isn't that unlucky, he is just super easy to defend. He hits the ball in the same spot 90% of the time. The shift kills him. This isn't something that is going to normalize. He'd likely be hitting like .250 if teams played him straight up, but they don't and they won't. His expected batting average per Statcast is .242 and I’m assuming that doesn’t account for the shift so you’re pretty much on the money.
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