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I'll make the argument that be it analytics or scouting they aren't doing it effectively. There's no way in hell the Sox get the same success from our 1st round draft picks that the Astros and Cubs got. When you hear things from Hostetler about they would've taken Collins 1 -1 it makes you really wonder. The Cubs got so much talent they could afford the loss of Jimenez, Cease and Gleyber Torres . But can anyone here realistically see the Sox system producing a Correa, Bregman, Altuve, Springer, Keuchel , McCullers, Bryant , Baez, Schwarber ,Almora, Happ ,Contreras . These are all home grown, none of them from trades.

I could see wanting AJ . He's good. But pairing him with Benetti just can't see it. We've all heard how brutal AJ can be with people. Ptatc doesn't like him much. Maybe he's matured or understands about being a professional broadcaster now but he's always reminded me of a bully and Jason reminds me of the bullied. I know its a strange take on the matter because I don't know either one but kind of have a hard time thinking putting the bully with the bullied would work.

Soria gets the win Aj in the booth Big Hurt on the post game. Sox are in the playoffs.

Moooooooose

Arcia does a fadeaway hook slide or headfirst towards the foul side of the base he's probably safe there.

Arcia looks safe but might be inconclusive,

Poor pitch selection on 0-2 to ARenado trying to go inside. With bases loaded don't wanna hit the batter so he the pitcher ended up leaving it out over the plate for the SF. Should've went down and away with the slider. Brewers lucky it's tied. Now the chance for some walk off drama.

9th inning bases loaded no outs 1 run in for the Rox. 2-1Brewers.

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I like the woman . She sounds informed to me.

Somehow I feel like this should be in the Pale Hose section since many times people don't look at Future Sox after the season ends and it's good news foe the franchise.

That's what happens when the opponent isn't considered the enemy.

Arenado maybe could've sold that more. Like try to break free of the hug forcefully and bitterly complain he was prevented from throwing.

Rockies can't keep giving the Cubs chances to walk it off. It's gonna happen .

So looks like we are posting on this game in 2 different threads ?

Strange take considering you can't play a ball you can't see or is stuck somewhere.

Those 1st 2 pitches to Story with a man on 3rd and 1 out were balls and called strikes. If not for the ump Rox could be up 2-0 . Just bad umpiring not a conspiracy.

Hey I get it hot takes are your thing but please let them make some sort of sense. He's a trainer they have a training staff. They have strength and conditioning coaches. I don't even see how you can blame a trainer if some gets hit by a pitch or slides into a base and breaks a hand or ankle. Some of these guys are unique physical specimens with extraordinary muscle mass much of the time built through weight training which might not take into account the true hereditary nature of what their body can tolerate. Pitching in and of itself is an unnatural motion for a human being. Its far more natural to throw underhanded. You can't prevent pitching injuries when just the act of pitching is against the natural flow of body movement. Maybe if you ever took the time to say which injuries you think that could have been prevented you might make some sense but you don't dare do that since ptatc might shoot you down. If you are not a medical professional throwing baseless accusations around is not just a hot take its an idiotic take.

Yep and I already broke down the Cubs and Astro's draft picks from 2011-2015 in the 99 losses or fewer goal thread.. Both teams produced a lot of good to great players from the draft in those years. Still to be determined but doesn't look we we will see the same type of results from the draft. I have no idea about talent from international youngsters but with Aldolfo and Roberts we'll have to see if they can stay healthy and start developing. Altuve came very cheaply to the Astro's that way. Even with the Aiken situation the Astro's turned that into Bregman so really they just traded themselves a #1 for a # 2 in the next draft and took another great position player. With Correa they passed on Buxton when Correa agreed to go under slot and then used the saved money to pick McCullers as a supplemental 1st rounder. Anyway that's all in this article about how they put together their WS winning team. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/world-series-2017-how-the-al-champion-houston-astros-built-their-roster/

Have to agree with you here. Just wish he had done more like it. I expect a lot of trades and roster movement this winter.

1 down 20+ to go.

That last sentence you said was my whole point. We are just not discovering enough talent be it trades or the draft so far But we seem to be very good at hanging onto our wonderful ML talent to evaluate them.

Cubs 1st round draft picks from 2011-2015 : Baez #9 , Almora #6 , Bryant #2 , Schwarber #4, Happ #9 Astro's 1st rounders 2011-2015 : Springer #11 , Correa #1 , Mark Appel #1, Brady Aiken #1 , Alex Bregman #2 and Kyle Tucker #5 both in 2015 Looks like the Cubs picks are more in the Sox range but they picked all position players in those years and everyone of them has made significant contributions. The Astro's had 3 # 1's and 2 of the top 5 in 2015. What is the trend here with 2 World Champs ? They both had the most success drafting position players who turned into superstars or very high quality players. Only 2 pitchers taken by both teams both #1's by the Astros and both bombed, Will the Sox end up with similar draft results ? As of now it doesn't look that way. Jake Burger taken at #11 like Springer was. Zack Collins taken at #10 , Baez #9 . Happ at #9 Fulmer at #8 in the same draft year. Maybe Madrigal or this years pick end up good, Even if you throw in the kids we got in trades do we have a Correa, Springer, Baez or Bryant or Bregman among them ? We will see.

I frankly don't care who goes and who stays. I am not worried nor do I care if anyone becomes better with another team. The Brewers lost Khris Davis and Scooter Gennett and look where they are. The A's and Tampa Bay make a ton of trades and somehow they survive and even strive. Just show some moxie or balls or w/e you want to call it and flip them all . I don't care how crowded it gets at AA/AAAA .Get some defenders , see if the Twins will deal Byron Buxton. The Sox stink at their 2 highest levels. Trade Castillo, Narvaez, Smith,Palka, Davidson, Abreu, Rodon, Avi Engel, Delmonico, Cordell, Tilson ,Sanchez ,Leury and whoever from AAA. ( Guererro , Stephens, Adams Danish) Trade the 24-27 yr olds for 22-24 yr olds. Don't try to win trades when you trade trash just focus on decent defenders who might surprise you with the bat or guys who make better contact. Trade quantity for quality. Maybe someone will be dumb enough to trade 1 good player for 3 of our bums if they want some depth.

You keep saying Altuve is on roids and no one says anything. So what makes you say that ? I know you don't have any proof so why hasn't he been busted ? Is the MLB drug policy a sham ? Do they overlook superstars and just bust guys like Castillo . How does Cano get busted then? Are other drugs easier to catch than steriods ? Are the people who produce the steroids better at masking them than MLB is at finding the abusers ?