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No they aren't trying to compete in 2019 . The Nova signing should 've told us all that. Barring miraculous seasons from Moncada, Eloy Giolito, Rodon, Anderson Abreu , Castillo, and the entire bullpen they will not compete even with Harper or Machado. Probably not with Harper and Machado too. Now if they sign another good starting pitcher or take a chance on Kichuchi's shoulder, trade for a 3rd baseman, put Harper at 1st base,add Brantley and trade Abreu for a CF I MIGHT think they are trying to win in 2019. Even then it would still take some miracle seasons from most of the pitching staff and some trade deadline moves to have a shot in the playoffs.

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Very true. It's very hard to envision. Even in that poll a few weeks ago I picked the lowest chance even though I want it to happen in the worst way.And it's not even the lack of faith I have in Hahn or Reinsdorf. We historically have had cheap or broke owners . When the Yankees were good we were 2nd or 3rd. There's the Black Sox scandal. There's the 94 team that had a shot at a World Series that our own owner sabotaged by being a leader in the cause to keep salaries down that led to the strike. Even the year we won the World Series with a great season and great playoff run it's often a World Series forgotten and that team had really no HOF type guys . Before that 88 years without a World Series win and 46 years between even appearing in one. If you know your White Sox history we have been conditioned to expect the worst and it's incredibly difficult to expect the best. Even if we do sign Machado over Harper it'll feel like we got the wrong guy. It would be so White Sox to get the guy who is possibly the better fit but with a negative reputation like Albert Belle all over again . On a year to year basis I stay optimistic but overall when I think of my favorite team it's a dismal history.

Preaching to the choir my man. Our 1st rounders have looked poor unlike the Stro's who got so much from their drafts even while making mistakes.

So you did check them previously but won't give me a link to check ? OK um thanks ? Forgive me for not trusting your incredibly good mind. But it's really not worth it to check that since we will then start arguing over what exactly constitutes a bad week. Eloy is a badass in my opinion so arguing over a weeks worth of stats is pointless.

Yea no. Not going to check the stats on a week by week basis unless you can show me a link to that from the time he joined the Sox. Can I assume you can since you said check the stats ?

I should have remembered you though because I think as far as posting goes you are the closest one to thinking like I do.

Have you seen the other names of FA infielders ? Pretty boring list.

Ha ok so I can't remember everyone of you but since Fathom repeats himself often I remember him, . Mea culpa.. Your screen name like mine is pretty generic. If I had to do it all over again I'd change it to something short and simple like Fathom !

Eloy ?

I really don't have much of a beef with you. You and I were the only ones here wanting JD Martinez. I was at the forefront in the this year is the big year strategy (as soon as I got over my initial fears that they would be more likely to go to a contender.) I had epic arguments with SS2k and Balta on the subject. I LOVE the fact we can get Harper or Machado , absolutely LOVE it. But I don't think all is lost or we need to grab our pitchforks if we don't get them.

So what I got from all that was you didn't say you feel the Sox can with without Harper or Machado. Which is the stance I asked you to make. You straddled the fence once again.

You shouldn't ask question I know you already know the answers to. Next years FA agency is pitching rich. You get another year to see how our AA guys do plus Cease and Dunning. You start filling the gaps with them and maybe use others in trade. It shouldn't be all doom and gloom if we fail on the big guys.

Your negative take on it . If you don't think the Sox can find a Verlander , Lester or JD Martinez type just say so . If you think the rebuild is a failure if they don;t sign Harper and Machado just say so. Stop playing both sides of the fence and have an opinion instead of beating around the bush on everything.

Even more so on Twitter since every Joe Blow has the same platform unlike other media if Twitter can even be called media in the traditional sense of the word like newspapers and TV. Social media is relatively new..

Proceed with the rebuild without Harper and Machdo ? In their combined years they haven't won a World Series and teams have won World Series without them so maybe we can too ?

Yes that's the legend around Robert Johnson and Supernatural had an episode about it back in 2006. But in Supernatural they've used the crossroads demon many times as part of the story lines in the 14/15 years Supernatural has been on TV.

He's a meathead with a source. Strange way to show support for his supposd favorite team when we all know free agency or the best offer doesn't necessarily guarantee anything.

What does melting down in a bad way even mean ? Maybe you become a Cubs fan ? You're almost there already

I should've known you didn't sell your soul to a crossroads demon since after 10 years the hell hounds come to get you and it's been 13 years already.

Thank you Bobby SInger !

If you didn't sell your soul to a crossroads demon for that one you are good ! I watch too much Supernatural.

Kid's say the darnedest things.

I also have brought up the Disney money in the past but that was right around the Roberts signing so it probably went there.

Ha I'm sure he's had a bad week everyone does. Maybe right after he got back from injury IDK , But I do believe he's a beast or (the bessss) as he's known in these parts.