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Hard to believe Volquez is still out there. I thought he was losing his command last inning.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) Nicely done by Ventura. Robertson the 8th, and Montas the 9th? HA you're funny.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) Only at 90ish pitches, I think they give him another inning, then Montas Montas ? No way unless the Sox are up by 5.

Give Danks his due against his favorite patsies . Do KC fans call him Cy Danks ?

Rios looks different , thinner. Anybody else think so ?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) 41st time in 87 games played this year the Sox have scored three runs or less. That's 56.3% of their games. Incredible. Another fan asked "when will this team start hitting?" Given that over half a season is in the books the probable answer is "not this year." As Kenny would say, "it is what it is..." Actually it's 47.1264367816 % . 41 is not even half of 87 so it can't be over 50% unless you put in a wrong number in your post somewhere.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 08:01 AM) i can understand you point and you do make a good one. but i rather give Sale that little extra rest. ref bold 1. a month???? bold 2. Sale is saying the right things. he is not the boss. bold 3, it is this series. the future???? I don't know the exact times he's been allowed to rest or DL'ed for precautionary measures , but I'd say its been a month or close to it every year for the past 3 years. I agree he is not the boss. Yes the future . You want the Sox to get to the playoffs every year while Sale pitches don't you? So far it hasn't happened and the Catch 22 question will remain. How do the Sox make the playoffs while they also rest Sale risking critical games in a pennant race ? And if they do reach the playoffs how can Sale handle the load with only one 30 start season under his belt so far ?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 01:48 PM) SO you're saying dont swipe and pose? Swiping is good , just throwing a glove down then acting like you got him isn't.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 01:47 PM) 8-1 with a 2.73 I thought so . Thanks and you seem more down than I've ever seen you on the Sox.

Nice throw Soto . That's how u tag a guy not just throw your glove down but go after the runner.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 01:43 PM) No chance Danks gives up less than 6 runs. He's historically good though against the Royals isn't he ?

Good job la Rock . Look at 2 strikes then swing at the ball you have to know is coming.

Alexei needs an extra base hit to score LaRoche.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 12:58 PM) Hopefully Yost lets Young pitch a little longer since its a double header and the Sox strike quickly. Nope Madson in.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 12:55 PM) Now we have to score at least 2 more runs against the best bullpen in baseball Hopefully Yost lets Young pitch a little longer since its a double header and the Sox strike quickly.

1-2 Hanger yeesh !

Come on Alexei dive into that runner to make the tag !

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) Both of those CS were blown calls. One maybe, if its 2 like you say then Robin is at fault for not asking for a review of the 1st one ?

Only game going on now I think and yet it took so long and the y blew the call unless they think Avi got tagged on the arm before the tag on the waist, but other wise it's SOS ( same old Sox). 2 lead off walks 2 outs on the bases.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 07:15 AM) One of the new writers on SoxNet is Mark Liptak, who has been writing on the White Sox for decades and is a pretty big name. He's got his first SoxNet piece up - Part 1 of a three part series on What Ifs over the history of the team. Here is this first chapter. Next chapter will take us from the 60s to Sportsvision. You should all consider subscribing to SoxNet too! Interesting article. I had read somewhere the Sox also had 2 shots at getting Babe Ruth , one before he became a Red Sox and the other getting him after the Red Sox decided to get rid of him.. Maybe Liptak will also write about that "what if " . Those two shots : http://southsideshowdown.com/2012/09/21/ba...cago-white-sox/ and http://whitesoxcards.blogspot.com/2009/07/...-white-sox.html

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 06:23 AM) I know what you mean as there were a handful of board members that were against the idea when it was just a rumor last November. I give the Sox credit for making a go of it but things just have not worked out and its time to move on. Hopefully Houston is willing to part with a few of their young hitters as it seems they have the most to offer in terms of the Sox needs. Houston is also rumored to be looking for a 1st baseman. Maybe LaRoche wouldn't be better than what they have now but maybe the Astros might like the idea of getting a veteran leader to help the young guys down the stretch. Shark and the Rock both to Houston.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 05:34 AM) Do you want to be the Nationals and "go for it" in July and not have your best pitcher available in September or October? We all know there is plenty to criticize the Sox for, but if there is one thing they have earned my trust in, it's the handling of Sale's rest and innings. If they think he needs a few more days rest now, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it's necessary, same with Rodon. It's better than losing him for months at a time because they pushed him at the wrong time. There's a big difference between Chris Sale now and Strasburg back when that happened. If Chris Sale can never pitch in the postseason without extended rest periods during the season how do you actually ever make it to the post season giving Sale a month off every year when every game is so critical to actually getting to the post season ? It's been 6 days since Sale last pitched. Has there been any indication that he needs rest right now ? Sale said " "I don't make calls like that," he said of whether he will start Sunday. "[but] absolutely, any time you get an in-division rival, those are the games you need, those are the games you want. Like I said before, I'm here to pitch, whatever they've got for me, I'm game for it." That was taken from an article by Mark Newman on MLB.com . I just don't think he should miss the entire series with KC and he could pitch right away if they really wanted him to. Chances are the Sox are out of it and anything Sales does will not get them back in it, however a 3 series go for it mentality while starting the 2nd half at home is the right message to send the team and fans. Sale can get all the rest he wants after that and if by some miracle the Sox make a run then Sale will have to do what most pitchers in the postseason do and that's just suck it up and do your best. Right now ,as in the future ,the question will always be "Can the Sox get to the post season while giving Chris Sale rest periods during the season " ?

Very good analysis and it leads to what I having been saying about the possible trade deadline acquisitions and catcher for a while. Right now you take the best available packages you can get and that catcher ,being so thin at the MLB level , should not be a focus of team need. I remember advocating trying to get Iglesias when he was available and also Brock Holt , Anthony Rendon and Juan Lagares when he ( Rendon) was still in the minors . Of course plenty on here shot down my arguments saying guys like Iglesias and Lagares don't hit enough and that Holt might be a one year wonder. Now Holt and Iglesias have become all stars and Rendon came in 5th in MVP voting a year ago. Lagares is generally regarded as one of the best fielding CF's in the game. I have always advocated defense because I knew the Sox strength was always pitching . I'm not saying the Sox could've got any of those players especially Rendon who was a top prospect. What I am saying is defense should always be a huge consideration when you know your strength is pitching. I'd rather get a weak hitting young player with a good glove and hope he can develop his hitting like Iglesias and Lagares than get a guy who supposedly can hit but not play good D . Defense plays at all levels whereas a good hitter in the minors may not hit in the majors and then he is completely useless since his D also sucks.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 10:22 PM) Well there were 15 scouts at his start where he thee a complete game shutout against a (the?) top hitting team. May not get more heated than that. I also suspect that between now and the deadline, there will be a greater supply of pitchers on the market than there are now. Yes there will be more sellers . The Tigers might decide to sell David Price .There's still Hamels, Cueto, Mike Leake, or any Oakland starter since you never know what Oakland will do. Padres may decide James Shields is movable . Craig Kimbrel and Aroldis Chapman or Jay Bruce might also become available. Rumors are already flying about Justin Upton and Carlos Gonzalez. It's not only starting pitchers that will dilute the market for Shark but any trade that brings players back the Sox are interested in.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) Its like you never paid attention to any time Chris Sale has been a member of the White Sox You should explain yourself . Last time Sale pitched was July 11th. Today is the 17th . Sale could pitch today with plenty of rest and certainly should pitch in the series if he is feeling 100%. I understand there have been times when the Sox gave Sale extra rest but is now the time to do it ? If management thinks it is the time then what is that telling the team and the fans about what they think their chances are of getting back into the race. Yes ,many of us think with the hitting the way it is the Sox don't have a prayer of getting back into it but management should not take that position just yet. IF they do they might as well trade Shark ASAP unless they know something we don't about their chances of resigning him. Management should be in "go for it" mode right now . They really only have to be in that mode for the 1st 3 series of the 2nd half and if after that they decide it's over Sale can get plenty of rest after those 3 series.