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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 02:33 AM) Ron Guenther, Illinois AD, giving leverage to the shoe conspiracy: “We understood what was going on (with Rose) all along,” Guenther told the Champaign News-Gazette. “The sport of men’s basketball has issues that the NCAA has been trying to address. There are many tentacles to the problem, so there is no magic bullet to solve it. It has been a focal point for discussions in this conference for more than 10 years. We’ve had task forces looking into the AAU, the shoe money, the agent.” It didn't stop Illinois from going after him. They just got pissed because Reggie & Co. wanted Weber to not only give up some dough, but supplement the money lost he would've gotten from Adidas for going to an Adidas school. But alas, even Guenther knows about the shoe money and the funneling of cash through the AAU team circuit.

QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 10:22 AM) I really had no idea they were going to be on campus; then one day I'm walking to my Econ class and Dustin Hoffman is five feet away. Obviously, no one expects to see an Academy Award winning actor on campus, so it didn't click right away. I casually nodded hello to him, and then about 15 seconds later I thought to myself, "That guy really looked a lot like Dustin Hoffman." I didn't get a chance to meet either of them after that, but it was a pretty awesome to be around when the movie was being shot and to have that mini run in with Mr. Hoffman. Forget that, did any of you guys get free food from the food truck outside of the Student Center? I remember I was going to be an extra, but when they didn't pay anything, I decided it wasn't worth 4 hours of time just walking around the same spots. I did manage to get a burrito though! lol.

Weeds starts on Monday, Entourage in July. Woo!

I can't believe no one mentioned how Kaka is being transferred to Real Madrid for I think 92 mil.

New Jersey or Delaware I thought now allow you to do it. Alot of the sportsbooks online do indeed funnel the money through a third party financial institution.

It was just a gift from his mom. Nevermind the fact that she couldn't afford a Honda Civic brand new, much less a Hummer. As far as Jordan, he punched his teammates because they mouthed off to him and even tried to swing at him after he yelled at them not being prepared. Maybe that's why he became the best. He demanded excellence from his teammates, even if they were crappy scrub players. Shaking someone's hands though after tehy beat you fair and square is unsportsmanship. Beating up your teammate because he won't learn a play or two is much different. Heck, I wish Jordan was still here to do that to some of our current players.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 08:31 PM) Not me. I just couldn't care less that a pro basketball player cheated in high school. It honestly doesn't bother me one bit. So it wouldn't bother you one way if you struggled in a class and studied your ass off just to pass a test, while Derrick probably didn't have to show up to class was probably playing hooky with his boys, and he passed that same test that he probably doesn't even know what was being covered? It's kind of like work too. You wouldn't care if your boss let you and a coworker who holds the same position as you were treated differently because he plays golf with the boss? I'm pretty damn sure it would. QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 08:33 PM) No, and please spare me the "this is how you actually feel but you're too blind to see it" lecture. I've already stated how I felt several times. Same goes here.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 05:50 PM) That's ridiculously harsh, hell, people don't even get those kinds of penalties when they're found to be guilty of plagiarism. Not really. This is beyond plagarism. The guy's grades were altered, changed, or not even his. This is way worse than regular plagarism. It's way worse than Sampson last year overall. The only reason why more people are acting careless about it or trying to put it under the rug, is because it's Derrick Rose, from Chicago playing on the hometown Bulls.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) 5 hours before game starts Well there's 90% chance of thunderstorms from what I've been hearing. I got tickets tonight and really want to go to on my day off. Dammit!

Really looks like this one is not going to get in. Clouds are turning super dark again.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 11:12 AM) Everyone in this thread still proves me right. It seems that because it's Lebron, he's supposed to go out of his way to show that he's a classy individual. Well guess what people, he's human. If this was anyone else on that team that left, no one here would give two s***s. But since it's the guy who was supposed to win it all, the MVP, etc. Now he's a b**** or selfish because he didn't congratulate the winning team. Get the f*** outta here. I'm sure all of you have always made the unselfish decision when it matters. If Kobe did the same it would be magnified. Hell when Shaq and Kobe wouldn't shake hands it was magnified. When the Pistons didn't shake the Bulls hands after they got swept, it was a big deal. So no, it's not just LeBron. LeBron gets the worse heat though because he was the one showboating, posing before home games, and is supposed to be a class act. This guy probably hasn't known anything about class since 8th grade.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ May 31, 2009 -> 09:26 AM) Because he smiles alot? Probably.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 31, 2009 -> 07:54 AM) Anthony Reyes needs season-ending surgery. Edwin Jackson has pitched like this more then a few times in his professional career and then started walking everyone in the park. I suggest we wait a few more weeks before anointing him. Eh. When he got to TB, they fixed him. The only reason why they got rid of him is because they have cheaper options who may pan out to be just as good as him like Wade Davis.

Also, LeBron got off the team bus according to Craig Sager and didn't go back to the hotel with his teammates or even fly home. Instead, he called his mother and will be staying in Orlando for awhile with her. So apparently, the guy doesn't even care about his teammates. You win as a team, you lose as a team. His supporting cast being bad is a poor excuse because in the regular season, everyone was up in arms about how great of a supporting cast they have and how they are so great defensively. I never got why so many guys see him as classy. He took the Hummer in high school which his mother couldn't afford, He tatooed Chosen1 on his back and started calling himself King James. He also started doing stupid poses before each home game. If Kobe did that, people would be up in arms. LeBron does it any it's okay.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 30, 2009 -> 09:59 PM) Oh, please. That's all hearsay. And highly likely BULLs*** at that. I'm convinced that just about every program cheats. If you're not cheating, you're not trying. And then there's this: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...0,7230960.story Do you honestly believe that the same NEVER happens for athletes at illinois??? C'mon now... Right. Because there can't be a clean program out there. I don't believe in any of that. Weber actually ran a clean program. I didn't like the guy, love Bill Self, wanted Thad Matta, and I'm a UNC fan. With that said, I know Weber ran a clean program and many said that would be the death of him because he refuses to baby players and suck them off just to come to the university. As far as his current players, that's a different story.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 29, 2009 -> 02:58 PM) RIIGHT... If it's worth anything. Weber refuses to partake in any of that. Reggie originally wanted money just to allow Derrick to visit and open up recruiting to each school. Weber stated absolutely not and became hot after that. Like really really really pissed off.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 29, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) What's the background on Reggie Rose? What has he done to get the reputation he has? Sucked at life. Started his own AAU team to put Derrick on, facilitated money from others through this AAU team and took them as "donations". Brokered a pre-arranged deal with Adidas for Rose to go to an Adidas school which is why the Illini seemed to be out of the picture suddenly, and the three contenders were Indiana, Memphis and DePaul. Reggie and Derrick agreed DePaul was not big time enough(hell, I agree on that), and with Gordon going to Indiana, that wouldn't allow Derrick to excel and be the man which is what Sonny Vaccaro wanted. Derrick reopened the Illini as an option because he seemed to actually like Weber and Reggie allowed him to talk to them to save face and try to make the allegation go away that Derrick was just looking at Adidas schools. Reggie locked the deal down with Coach Cal once the money was funneled. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if it was Reggie who had someone sit in for Derrick's SAT's and facilitated the alteration of grades. As far as everyone else knew in terms of coaches, Sampson, Weber, Wainwright, all thought he would qualify without a hitch. I stopped following the rest of the tracks a while back. Keep in mind, I also did mention he would pick Adidas as his athletic clothing company of choice much before he announced it after getting drafted. Reggie is a douche really from all accounts, even to some of the people who helped him with Reggie. Derrick will only listen to Reggie.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 29, 2009 -> 11:41 AM) A lot of this also comes down to Reggie Rose who clearly is the ring leader in this. Derrick is clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer and Reggie needed to live vicariously through Derrick to realize his own failed basketball dreams. So he probably told Derrick there is nothing wrong with cheating on the SAT, everyone does it to play college b-ball and told him more lies. He looks up to his brother in a big way and follows his orders acquiescently. I blame Derrick a lot and this shows what a moron he is, his lack of character and really makes me like him less, but Reggie Rose is the biggest culprit IMO. 100% agreed and I hope a lot more people realize this. I won't absolve Derrick in his part, but I think his brother completely brainwashed him. Reggie has been trying to live through his brother since Reggie didn't do anything past high school.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 29, 2009 -> 09:19 AM) So I am curious about those who think Calipari is some sort of scumbag, but Rose is OK. What is the difference between the two? They both cheated their asses off, why is one guy having excuses made for him? I agree and said that all day yesterday. Supposedly though, Cal is a slimeball and Derrick can do no wrong and if he does, it's justified because he's just a kid. I personally think that's BS. There are a ton of other student athletes who are just kids. This is way worse than OJ Mayo, way worse than a Maurice Clarrett.

I don't know. If a reporter like Selena Roberts wants to dig deep, she probably would find the pre-arranged deal with Adidas, more grade alteration, etc. Rose is a nice guy, but him and Reggie are slimeballs and I think Derrick is because he doesn't know any better. Obviously an English grade/Speech grade had to be altered because this guy gives the worst interviews ever.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 28, 2009 -> 10:21 PM) Horrible analogy... Not really. Breaking a law or rule is breaking a law or rule. I don't understand why someone would go to such far lengths for someone who was always about the money. We're talking about a guy who had his transcripts altered, had a pre-arranged deal with Adidas before he even entered college, took more than just a scholarship from Coach Cal, was dipping into someone else's girlfriend and got beat down for it, and cheated his way through an SAT in the worst way possible, have someone else take it.

QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ May 28, 2009 -> 04:15 PM) I think Lebron's fate will go with his team's success, if the Cavs dont win a championship this year or next I think he will bolt. My bet would be on the Knicks/Nets though with Chicago 3rd. I agree. Chicago will be a distant 3rd. LeBron has always loved the limelight New York would provide him. I think it's his favorite city in the world actually. The reason the Nets are in there is because his best friend is Jay-Z and if they actually do finalize a deal to move to Brooklyn, it would be a tough choice for LeBron.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 28, 2009 -> 03:19 PM) Nope, the money to be given has been there wayy before Reggie and Derrick Rose came along. And if it did or didn't, that in no way absolves Derrick Rose for breaking it. People rob banks all the time. Just because someone does it before someone else, doesn't make the 2nd person any less guilty.

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 28, 2009 -> 02:36 PM) How do you drive up the price with a salary cap? You could go over the limit with a sign and trade. If LeBron says he absolutely will not play for Cleveland anymore and that they might as well get something for him, he just created more money for himself.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 28, 2009 -> 02:52 PM) If money isn't offered, there's no money to be taken... Or in the case of Derrick and Reggie Rose. If there is no money asked, there is no money to be given.