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I would've taken Justin Jackson over Kozma. Hopefully he falls to the Sox.

I guarantee the Sox won't take him.

Blake Beavan. Not a bad pick. His delivery reminds me of Jake Peavy.

I want Burgess or Jackson dammit!

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 01:27 PM) For the love of God, quit blaming Walker for everyone's approach. If he truely was preaching what everyone is saying, what a leader he must be if everyone is willing to listen to him, and give up millions in potential income and piss away their careers. Disregard Fields' strikeout totals in the minors. If he fans as much in the majors or even more, I'm sure it will be Walker's fault. So you're saying don't listen to the hitting coach? Especially the young players? Riiiiiiiiight. I'm sure that'll fly by.

We were the wrong situation for him when we drafted him. Fizer should've been what Carlos Boozer is now.

Terrero should be our starting CF and we'll ride him all the way to a playoff berth as he puts up the MVP season we all expected.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 28, 2007 -> 03:15 PM) Bring in Aardsma now There ya go.

His curve is good when it's not constantly going in the dirt(I don't blame him so much, just the bite he has on it is insane). He rarely uses the Change or Slider. I wouldn't consider those plus pitches. I wish he would use the Knuckler if he's going to stay at his mid-90's velocity. I really wish we could get him back in the 100's.

I still want his lift and pull ass fired.

Only person who doesn't belong is Logan IMO.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 19, 2007 -> 03:02 PM) I probably wasn't very clear, but you read my post wrong. When I say McCarthy = Danks, I'm not comparing them as pitchers. I'm comparing them as products of the farm system. So when somebody says, "Which players have been produced under Kenny's farm?", I think Danks qualifies. He didn't directly come from the Sox farm system, but he's still a product of the system because of the good job the Sox did with McCarthy. This is just plain wrong. McCarthy earned a lot of the hype he got. He dominated the minors like no pitcher I've seen in my young life from the Sox' farm system, and he was the Sox' best pitcher down the stretch in 2005. We might not make the playoffs without BMac. People forget just how dominant he was for us in 2005 -- in September and October, 35 innings pitched while allowing all of eight (!) runs. *cough* Jose Contreras *cough* I don't consider Danks part of the farm system considering he never spent a second of his time there. Jenks is more of a product of our farm system than Danks. McCarthy didn't deserve most of the hype he had. He had a couple of good games and Sox fans jumped on his jock like they did with Boone Logan and Jeff Baj.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ May 19, 2007 -> 02:30 PM) I agree with the general point that the Sox drafting/scouting has been poor, but you really can't bash Kenny for the McCarthy situation. If you truly believe McCarthy is/was an overrated pitcher, Kenny deserves a lot of credit for talking BMac up enough and getting one of the better left-handed prospects in all of baseball (Danks) for him. For me, Danks = McCarthy when it comes to the Sox' drafting. No, the Sox didn't develop Danks or draft him, but they did with McCarthy and apparently did a good enough job to get one helluva pitcher in return. I disagree. They throw the same pitches, but one clearly has the better stuff and mindset. Sox fans were the ones who did the hype job on McCarthy. The guy was trash to begin with and I've always maintained that. Texas was stupid in thinking McCarthy was more ready than Danks, and then trading a LHP for a RHP.

QUOTE(Brian @ May 19, 2007 -> 01:44 PM) Fields, Sweeney, McCarthy (I know, I know), Honel, Haeger. Oh, I see A guy who doesn't have a position A guy who had a nice swing until Greg Walker started giving him advice An overrated player since day 1 who has yet to prove, he was anything more than that A bust who broke his arm A guy the Sox are fearful of giving a chance and probably won't start consistently with this team ever If that's a good drafting history, I'm scared as hell for this franchise.

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 19, 2007 -> 01:49 PM) The more I read about Burgess the more I want him. Good speed, cannon arm, good defensively, can hit for average, and has crazy power. The guy squats over 600 lbs! And he ran the 60 yard dash under 7 seconds. This guy is a freak. He's going to be a stud. The next Gary Sheffield without the problems.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 19, 2007 -> 01:07 AM) Don't succumb and punch anybody, Sox fans. You'll get thrown in jail. Peace. p.s. Should MacDougal be a starter? Converted to one? I personally think he sucks and that dates back to his days in KC. He's too wild. He ain't a world champion type player. I won't punch, just stomp some people out. It'll be an act of self defense.

QUOTE(Brian @ May 19, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) KW got Gio back and also got Danks, who is surpassing expectations, IMO. Who knows how good Masset can be. We have drafted some decent talent as well with KW here, minus Royce Ring. I can't NOT trust KW to rebuild. Like who?

Wow, this thread is worse than the trade for Joe Randa post made a couple of years back.

For the record, the guys I'd want most are: Jackson Borbon Burgess

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 19, 2007 -> 11:28 AM) For Main, does he project better as a position player or pitcher? See for men, I wouldn't go after Main simply because you know he hasn't been developed as much as he should've been by now because he's bounced around positions. Here's a report on him. He'll probably be gone by the time we draft anyway. The guys I posted are guys I could see the White Sox targeting based off recent drafts. Borbon would be the guy who truly catches my eye though. Here's some other guys: If you want a High School pitcher: For Flash, a guy who might drop because of Scott Boras. I'd take him too. Another pitcher: And a SS who will probably move to the OF. He has a long looping swing which doesn't bode well for the Sox if they draft him considering Greg Walker is useless.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 19, 2007 -> 11:49 AM) I don't say things based on what the recruiting sites say, everybody around here knows that by now, I have better sources than that nonsense. Tucker not coming to Illinois was 100 percent Bruce's choice, maybe "begging" was exaggerating, but he's at Illinois is Bruce had opened a spot for him instead of praying for Rose. Bingo.

Yeah, The Illini need to jump on this kid quick. It was funny because when I was reading the posts, even an MSU fan said that they hope he goes to Illinois because it's about time something went Weber's way.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 19, 2007 -> 12:23 AM) What's wrong with you? "Ozzie's favorite bad player." Yeah, right, because Ozzie slobbers all over him, right? No. But hey, let's just rip at Ozzie for no reason. Oh! "Walker too. f*** him." Rightrightright. Listen. KW constructs the team. Who else could Ozzie bring up for CF? Owens? So you can b**** that Owens is "Podsednik" and he's got to get his "speed rush, f***ing Ozzie!"? It's not Ozzie's fault that KW built a poor bench. It's not Ozzie's fault that at this moment, his OF is one of all fourth OFers and his fourth OF is a AAAA OF because KW screwed the pooch last offseason. Going with the players Ozzie had available today, defensively, it's quite simple. Mackowiak at 3B Sweeney in LF If it's an absolute must to have Ozuna in there, put him in LF. And again, it seems like Ozzie rather play the Lefty Righty matchup way too much instead of getting off his ass from drinking some cold ones and doing research. Mainly that MacDougal's ERA against hitters such as the first one he faced was .417. Don't get me started on Greg, "Lift and Pull, even if the pitch is low and away" Walker.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ May 19, 2007 -> 12:12 AM) Inside Information..... I luvvvvvvvv Tony Reali.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 18, 2007 -> 09:10 PM) 4 strikeouts out of the last 6 outs of the game. WTF does this guy do for a living. And I have heard comments that they are working on Sweeneys power. Thats it. The man has to go. The minute you start f***ing with a kids swing, before fixing the entire team who cant hits swing then you have no clue what you are doing or how to manage priorities. To me, Sweeney's power can wait how about fixing the contact issue, or Konerko, or Dye or the rest of the hitless wonders. FIRE GREG WALKER NOW!!!!! On the park gun at Weeds on the Wall field. I had to look to find it. Its on the light bar on the 3rd base side. They dont use it on every pitch. Logan was hitting 95 on the gun with his fastbal. Mike McDougal was hitting 91. Something is not right with that boy, he cant throw hard and he cant throw strikes. Yeah, that's what the Comcast gun read as well actually. I was like, "um, I thought MacFrugal threw harder than this."