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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:58 PM) LOL, what happened to Mulder and Garland? read the part where I said several others. I'm not going to waste my whole time typing it. But yes Garland, Mulder, Hudson and Harden and Zito over Buehrle.

I would like to see him get benched for it, but he is our only hitter who's doing anything relevant this month so you have to play him.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 05:34 AM) Nope, Ozzie took gooch out to get Blum in. Why sit one of our best hitters against a guy he kills. f***ing Dumb. But the dumbass Uribe and captain hitless Crede play day in and day out. I agree very dumb move. Shouldn't be stacking your team with your worst hitters to get them PT. I'd like to see Crede take the day off.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 06:17 AM) I don't know what it is lately, but everything this guy has said about the Sox lately has been in the worst possible light... Buehrle is overrated, Rowand isn't that great in CF, the Sox won't make the playoffs... etc. I won't worry too much about what he has to say IMO. It looks like he is just trying to stir the pot. 1)Buehrle is overrated on these boards. Some people saying they wouldn't take a pitcher over him and some saying he's the best young pitcher in the leagues. Um no, he's a nice pitcher, but I'd happily take Oswalt, Clemens, Pettite, Peavy, Santana, Perez(when healthy), F. Hernandez, Dontrelle, Bartolo and several others over him. 2)I'm sorry, but I missed the email message that said I had to slurp down Arow upon joining this site. I said he's a nice CF and very good defensively. I didn't say he sucks in any way, did I? QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 06:40 AM) Oops I almost missed, Hawk needs to be fired... 3)Hawk needs to retire. He also needs to apologize for his statements on Mariotti yesterday. That's stirring the pot. The article Mariotti wrote had nothing to do with Hawk whatsoever and several other columnists and media outlets felt the same way as Mariotti, but I didn't see Hawk rip them. It's not stirring the pot, it's calling it like it is which apparently most people at Soxtalk hate to hear. Lemme guess the response, "We have the best record in the majors so STFU."...Yeah, keep holding onto that little record excuse, see what that buys you in the playoffs.

QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) Yes, 10 more losses or Sox wins and they are officially done when it comes to winning the division this year. What about the Indians. Karma's a b****. If we were to pull a choke job, I'd like to see what all these posters say then who are making these threads. It's not over til it's over.

QUOTE(knightni @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:25 AM) Ok, Mr. Drew Bledsoe/Vinny Testeverde/Quincy Carter. What would you suggest? Thomas Jones can hold down the fort just fine; but, Hutchinson (as you know) is a big stiff. We need a QB. Bears fans wish they could have either Bledsoe, Testeverder or Carter at this moment.

I see nothing wrong with Hernandez at two. Didn't BA compare Young to Manny and Vlad?? Each are damn good.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:23 AM) How the f*** is that baseball related? You are really reaching on that one. Nothing that has happened was even close to what you are trying to make an example out of. Why don't you just put words in Hawk's mouth? You are acting like Hawk is completely wrong here. Put it this way. No one is right, no one is wrong. Jay just needs to shut the f*** up. I'm equating that none of the stuff said has nothing to do with baseball by both parties. You also said you'll side with Hawk over Mariotti on anything for being there blah blah blah. I wasn't equating abortion with a sport, I was equating a hot topic with another hot topic. Hawk also needs to shut the f*** up because he wasn't even discussed in the article. Where's Hawk ripping Morrisey?? All parties are wrong, but none are more wrong than Hawk.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:10 AM) :sleep 10 10?

QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:10 AM) Marrioti is a bandwagon jumper and only prints what sells. Hawk is behind the mic , living and dying with this f***ing team. Hawk gets paid for it , yeah. But, he is one of the few who watch every damn motherf***ing play. As hard as it is, at times. 2004's mid season nose dive... Hawk was there. 2003's september collapse.. Guess f***ing what? he was there. 2002's nightmare season... Hawk was there. 2001's 14-29 start.... Hawk was there too. every play. good times and his share of the bad. While most of us can turn off the tv during a seven game losing streak, Hawk watches every f***ing play. I will side with Hawk over someone who just conveniently decided to join in on our success. So if Hawk were to say Abortions should be legalized and Mariotti were to disagree, you're siding with Hawk all the way because of him being there every play for the White Sox?? No thats dumb. And don't say you can't compare these situations because one has to do with real life and the other entertainment because this originated from Ozzie saying something that had nothing to do with being related to baseball and the same with Hawk. You have that ride or die mentality. I could give a s*** less of Hawk owned the whole team, got us any player we wanted like the Yanks and gave each fan 100 bucks, right is right and wrong is wrong. What Hawk did was wrong and hypocritical. Nothing that has to do with baseball will change my opinion on that.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:03 AM) Maybe it tells us the Reds ceo is lying. Usually a CEO wouldn't lie about it like that. He would say, "Oh yeah, we're just not interested in moving Griffey at this time and that's why so and so will not be accepted."

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 01:00 AM) I dont feel like looking for the answer but why isnt iguchi playing lately? Prolly injured or Ozzie is just messing with the lineup for no reason.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:54 AM) Well sorry to get everybody hopes down but on Sporting News Radio they said that the ceo of the reds said that no deal had even been offered to them. That sucks. Basically tells us that KW was lying. At least that's the impression I got in his latest interview with the guy from Comcast and with statements like, "we're happy with what got us here." I'm utterly dissapointed because I don't forsee the White Sox making the playoffs next year.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) You don't know what brews on behind the scenes. Believe me, you and I do not know the entire story. I don't see why this is a reason for hawk to lose his job. If hawk is gone. I, personally , would start a bring back hawk campaign. I would never listen to audio on tv again. When I watch a game I feel I am watching it with a good buddy when I listen to Hawk. I do not care if hawk is 100% wrong. I would never side with the devil: Jay Marrioti. I know he won't get fired. I'm hoping he retires soon. He's a god awful announcer. I like his hawkisms and all, but he still is extremely homeristic. I rather see Steve Stone in there with a Len Kasper. Unlike you, I'll side with someone I feel is right. Mariotti did nothing to Hawk that I remember reading in yesterday's article. Hawk just went on attack mode. I don't see Hawk ripping Michael Smith from Around the Horn & some Boston Newspaper I think it was for agreeing with Mariotti's assesment. I don't see Hawk ripping anyone else on ESPN or the guy who wrote the original article. He was very hypocritical for blasting Mariotti because he had the chance to while claiming that's what Mariotti does(who has been praising the White Sox nationally for some time now).

QUOTE(rangercal @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:44 AM) I got sand in my cl*t!!! Baseball is a man's sport . Deal with what he said. I understand if Hawk was attacking Mariotti for being stupid, but it was a legit article. And Hawk was just spewing stupid s***.

He'll probably sign with Miami or PHX, but supposedly Detroit is going after him too.

QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 12:29 AM) really. hmm, I wonder what he could do against a real offense like the Sox. lol Perfect Game with 24 K's while the other 3 outs are popouts by Joe Crede.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:30 AM) That's still not the point. It is demeaning and insensitive. I understand that. I understand both sides and I know the general public won't so it would look very hypocritical.

QUOTE(forrestg @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) If this a rumor " A trade can be made for a player if he's on the major league 25 or 40 man roster only if both players have made cleared waivers. ROgowski is still on our 40 man roster that means he will have to go through waivers to be traded which i don't thnk will happen because he will be claimed by some other team with a worse record than Cinci. Young is not on the 40 man roster so if there will be a trade it will not be ROGO going there needs to be another minor leaguer to be sent to the reds. Possible, I don't know anymore. I think the cell would become more exciting than wrigley, Yankee stadium and Fenway park combined if Griffey comes and is effective for the stretch and the playoffs. Honel or Hernandez(our only decent C prospect) are guys being talked about in place of Rogo.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 10:17 PM) Yup. Having a Gold Glove means everything. I mean, Derek Jeter has at least one Gold Glove -- I think several -- and that CERTAINLY means he's better than a guy like Juan Uribe defensively. Right? GMAFB. Mark Kotsay and Aaron Rowand are the two best defensive CFers currently playing in the AL, and if neither of them wins it, it will be a f***ing sham. Did I say it does? No, so get off my f***ing back.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:23 AM) Maybe you don't find it offensive, and that's good for you. However, many Latinos do, as this surfaced a few years back when a newspaper actually publish quotes by a Latino player by spelling it phonetically. If memory serves correctly, the player may have been Sosa. Anyway, the s*** did hit the fan. However, my main point is that we have a double standard in here as to what is allowed by the posters and what will get them jumping down your throat for being 'insensitive'. I don't find it offensive either and I'm latino and I know tons of latinos who don't find it offensive, young and old.

QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:14 AM) The sox don't lose because of the fans... Got that right.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Here's to hoping that you go back to the Cubs board where you belong. Never was part of a Cubs board and never will be. It's funny to laugh about your lack of knowledge on me. QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) because he's not an ace Statement made no sense whatsoever. Not even as a joke. QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) Our 3Bman is so underrated. And why do you think that?

Hawk was over the top tonight and wrong. I honeslty hope Mariotti rips him a new one. Mariotti has actually been supportive of the White Sox these past few weeks. He also said stupid s*** about where would Griffey play again too. Here's hoping that you're gone Hawk.

QUOTE(WhiteSox311 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 10:50 PM) no i think its if your a major leaguer then you cant be a ptbnl....but since rogo is a minor leaguer that works out jus spiffy Nope, it's anyone on the 40 man roster because that question was asked specifically in regards to the Griffey situation.