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Great rabbit. Move along.

Politics is about people.

I've been struggling with that soxbadger. I focused on cheap housing to make it cheaper to move there, but I don't see how it is resovled without government assistance at least for this generation. The economy is providing more and more jobs to services. Services are more productive in dense areas. What happens to resolve that tension? Go back and time and make less jobs for all?

We've lost our ability to manufacture with human labor cheaply. We manufacture cheaply just fine.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 03:38 PM) Any jobs are going to be the result of trickle down business from reduced taxes and bringing back manufacturing. Both of which are most likely a fairy tale. Weaker dollar as well.

Last night was maybe the worst night of my life. It has severely changed my outlook. I became a democrat in height of the technowonks. I knew something was amiss but kept rationalizing in macro data. The data wasn't bulls***, but it was bad government. It added help with no responsiveness. It was not efficient. It was easy to dispute. Feel lost.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) I doubt it. I think she is his black "beard". He's not racist. He talks to Omarrossa. There was an NPR report from North Carolina where Omorossa was going around meeting with black leaders saying trump would set up a whole new program to get former felons jobs (the voter was a former felon and was voting for trump). Interesting to see if some of this stuff is real.

Plus dems would cave anyway.

Can't really gather what the f*** is up and down now. Clear dems took shortcuts on policies that were "helping" in macro but not nearly broadly enough. But I also worry that Our news consumption means we'll never think we are doing well. I live in a great neighborhood with great schools. 50 years ago I bet I'd say the country was doing well, after all, look around me. But now I'd say country is fubar. All of the worst things nationally are digested as locally. All flat.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 08:15 AM) America hates me. Or maybe it's Americans. I don't know. I mean, I knew that already, but now it's quantifiable. This kills me to read. Been posting with you for over a decade, your post this morning killed me.

Bush 04 was a blow I'd never felt before but I'd gladly feel that again over this.

Sorry everyone. I'm sad and angry and I'm not sure I'll ever get over this.

It's over and I'm just watching this zombie s*** on tv

I understand what you are saying soxbadger but I just don't think it would matter.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 10:21 PM) You can register same day. Back when I went to school there waited over an hour to vote. Dane County is at less than 70%. So there is a definite chance. But this is on Hillary, she took a lot of people for granted. I don't think so. She had a pretty extensive field operation. Rural whites just existed more outside likely voters than hispanics.

Yes feingolds blowout was the deathnell for me.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 10:10 PM) Here's a question for people that follow this stuff: how do we know all of these demographic numbers are accurate when the exit polling data isn't very accurate to begin with. Is that from different data set? Do they take registration info anonymously from the votes? Early vote numbers were huge this year but was unclear because of cannibalization. Why exit numbers so off? I think just bad samples. No time to fix it

I actually tried more for Hillary than Obama. But point taken, soxbadger. I needed your messages. Just in a bad mood.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 10:06 PM) Totally agree with this. There is a very unhappy silent portion of the country that feels really left behind hiding in the idiot minority of racists in this bunch. But it's a failure to validate the feeling with a solution.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 10:03 PM) The gift and curse of Democracy/Republic is that people get to express their opinion. I am not going to hate on people who went out and voted. If Hillary loses its because she couldnt get people to go out and vote for her, in places that she should have done better. Win some/ lose some. Well see what happens, but if Trump wins, we move on as a country and we do what we can. This was a nice post. But god I'm sad and scared.

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/796197301152661504 Unsurprising

I really thought she'd be a good prez for all Americans. I hope trump voters believe same. Going to kiss my sons head and pray.

Just crazy to me dems could lose mi but I'm looking at these numbers

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 09:15 PM) I have zero reason to think Hillary will force corporations to build factories in those small towns where People are voting for Trump because they are poor and frustrated. ( and no, I don't think Trump will either, just looking at the mindset those people would have) I understand, I'm sorry. Thought you were assigning motive.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 09:14 PM) And Silver has 55% Clinton now, which is what I was kinda saying. He has clarified her odds will tank when fla is called