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Shipps did you ever catch Summer League fever?

Their rotations were such a mess last year. If they can clean that up, they'll be better even if they are somehow less athletic. Their communication sucked.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 12:21 PM) Nate Silver did some analysis on the NBA draft picks and somehow projected Valentine as like the 3rd or 4th best player in terms of value over the next 5 years (I think it was 5 years). No idea what basis went into it, but thought I'd point it out. Simmons and Dunn were #1 / #2. I have little doubt that he can contribute offensively but pretty worried defensively. He was probably tired this tourney but he looks stiff as a board.

Dude celebrated pretty much like Rose after the cleveland 3pter.

Ugh, a FULL recap. Thanks "Google".

The problem with Robertson is when he doesn't have his stuff he isn't 1 ER bad he's 600 ER bad. He is always nails for April, gets tired, then suddenly is on only 1 in 10 nights.

Ugh I missed the championship for a class! Didn't Valentine hit a 3pointer to tie it too? Any video of that?

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 09:49 AM) I don't honestly in my heart give a s*** about Melania Trump ripping off entire sections of Michelle Obama's speech, but god damn are the jokes funny. #FamousMelaniaTrumpQuotes is a gold mine on Twitter. I don't know that I don't "care", I think it is certainly a sign of the amateurism of the campaign. I mean...it's one thing to plagiarize, it's another to plagiarize another prospective first ladies speech at a convention, it's another one to plagiarize another prospective first ladies speech at a convention that was only 8 YEARS AGO, when there's only been 1 other since! Like, that's a very small pool you are going to be compared to. But yeah, this one from Jessie Williams: I, am Malcolm X #famousmelaniatrumpquotes had me rolling. Also the tweets where she keeps referencing her kids sasha and malia.

I feel bad kind of not realizing this situation before it affected me, but I am floored by how insufficient the US parental leave and maternity policies are. My wife last week found out that their company removed short-term disability from their benefits (they had laid off 20 or so employees in January that put them below the requirement in Chicago). So with 2 months to go, we find out we don't have 6 weeks pay we planned on. Which would be fine if we hadn't decided not to switch jobs earlier because it would have meant receiving only 6 weeks guaranteed job safety (and no income). I've been writing to congressman/senators but the Clinton plan on this really is something I'm hoping gets traction. But considering nobody bothers to cover any policy proposal of hers I'm guessing it gets nothing.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) I thought maybe this was all an inside job planned to give Erdogan more power, but this story makes it seem like it was for real and very close to succeeding: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/...rkish-officials I'm going to guess the Erdogan in flight thing was the main crux here. It would have been hard for them to get international legitimacy after shooting a president's plane down. Arresting him and giving him trial, probably more legitimate.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 08:39 AM) Where was Biden when speech was written??? That's a good parallel. Looking forward to Trump dropping out.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) the more i hear, the less excited i get. And none of that has to do with Elba The more backing and money you hear is getting behind a project, the more worried you should be. Hard to make an interesting movie nowadays.

Good lord Hawk is terrible to ight

It's probably a smart move not to give a bunch of assets when he will test free agency the next year. Only the knicks were that stupid.

Honestly me neither. Boston Lakers. Team like Utah could pony up but doubt they could keep him.

Wow that's pretty aggressive

Honestly not sure our core is that good. What frustrates me in our trade add-on talk is the constant effort to replace below average parts with average parts. But our above average parts aren't picking up enough slack to do that. We need another elite position player and elite pitcher. We're not that good to be fussing with average.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 02:33 PM) They notably entered this season at the same payroll because $12 million of their payroll retired. They had boosted their payroll on paper by about that amount prior to that happening. Well, whatever, it seemed to replace the Samardjiza money.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) Danks is coming off the books next year. They are always thought to be broke, but do add payroll from time to time. They were in on Gordon and Cespedes, and Tanaka a few years ago. There is money someplace. As far as Andrew Miller, he could have been had for $9 million or so a year. In the Sox sign Duke thread, there were people who stated they would rather have Duke than Miller. They have seemed reluctant to go bold. The half assed stuff has continued to burn them and they go back to it. Maybe something will change there. I don't think they are broke, but that they entered this year at virtually the same payroll and made the decision to split up $16 million among latos, austin, etc vs a star name. Whatever acquisitions that add on money it is going to be a real decision vs. 2015 where they had a reduced 2014 payroll and could actually set market for robertson/duke/melky. That's the differnece from when they were "in" on Gordon and Cespedes (really just trying to get a depressed rate for them in an already depressed market) and when they went into 2015 with money to spend. 2016-17 offseason will not be 2014-15

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) Exactly!! I think sometimes people fail to realize the contract situations out there. They are going to add small, marginal pieces at the deadline and in the offseason. Maybe even bring in another controllable type OF player via giving up a prospect on our end. HOWEVER, it's not by surprise that we are on year two of a "three year plan" and many of the contracts end after next year. The Sox are going to sit pat right now and try their best to re-tool for a run next year as well. If things are off to a bad start? Then you'll see Melky, Lawrie, Robertson, Sale, Q, Frazier, etc. all traded. Maybe even players like Eaton. My only worry is the Sox do a half tear down and keep a few "key" players around. Now in regards to this Sale to Houston thing -- I'd totally love it. My second favorite team to watch is Houston, so wouldn't mind it from that perspective. Real hard to say what a fair value for Sale is. They have a plethora of talent over there, so you have to choose what you want or fits best. I'd personally want: Reed and Bregman for sure. You'd have 3b, ss, and 1b/DH all set day 1 of the trade. I'd also want a Tony Kemp or Mike Cameron's son in addition to one prospect arm. Think that's a pretty fair deal. From their end they just added Chris Sale and lost ZERO from their MLB roster. We would have an immediate CF/2B, DH/1B, 3B and a prospect arm.. However, if you are trading sale you gotta trade everybody else too. And you give up a ton of leverage as a white flag trade if you move sale as your first piece. You'd want to move your other pieces first --- Robertson is a good example. At least you sell him in a weak market and can sell your fan base that Fulmer can do his job and Burdi is on his way by next year. You cant sell your fan base that Sale can be replaced. Everyone knows what the sox are going to do, we are discussing what they should do.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Exactly. People were excited about Avi Garcia. People were excited about Courtney Hawkins. People were excited about Matt Davidson. Obviously some of the guys the Sox could get back for their better players are better prospects, but those guys totally bust or are mediocre players as well. Unless it's a guy who is going to be leaving your team in the next year or 2 and you really have no realistic chance to compete, I don't understand trading a guy like Sale hoping that what you get is a superstar one day. You already have that. I don't necessarily want to trade sale, but I'd argue that trading Quintana/robertson/jennings/frazier would get us to the playoffs faster than trying to add with an organization that: - Has limited farm resources that people want (hey look over at Cleveland where they are legitimately able to add Andrew Miller. We would struggle to add an average CFer) - Has a virtually exhausted payroll. But this is the point where Hahn expected the reserves from the recommitment to the draft/farm to pay off. But here we are, the expense of adding ML starters came at the cost of all depth, and still requires upgrades. Bad CF, the worst DH in baseball (not looking that up but I'm sure it's close to true), terrible catcher situation, zero SP depth, top heavy bullpen. You punt now so you can get a wave of young talent at once, so you don't end up with 1 superstar on a weak roster that we have currently.

Spend the bare minimum, keep it open.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) You don't get guys much closer to ready to contribute in the bigs than Bregman and Reed. Right, Reed is already up and showing power, Bregman is damn near up. McCullers would be in the rotation already. That is 3 players you'd expect up and contributing next year.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 11:47 AM) Kinda dumb question but did sub flooring factor in a lot into the quote? I figured what mattered most was square footage. Kind of, we could tell by the height of the floor vs. the surrounding original wood that they laid the tile on top. We quoted laying down new subfloor since, what the hell, how often do you dig that up. The problem was for some reason they had screwed in these gigantic screws under the tile into th e slats that took them forever to pry up. Ended up adding a half a day but they covered it under their original quote.

Don't know their top level guys that well. Bregman obvs