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I'm pretty excited to follow Remillard now.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 03:17 PM) So sell your soul and everything you believe in and everything you spent the last year telling the American people in order to prevent the 1% chance that Trump wins the election? How does he have any legitimacy after this? He's now supporting someone that a week ago he was blaming for a lot for the problems we have. You need to be open to the idea that you are projecting onto sanders that Clinton is the opposite of everything he believes. If a Hillary Clinton was the cause of all of the US's problems, then their solutions would not match up so often.

I can't believe how many people ran into this and didn't do anything.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 03:02 PM) Nah its all that liberal college thinking. You learn about great liberal thinkers like Machiavelli and those pesky liberal ideas like "the ends justify the means." What is the point of being an uncompromising ideologue if being one results in less of my ideas reaching fruition? The difference is that many positions that are considered "Republican" seemingly do not leave room for compromise. You are either for or against abortions. For or against gun control. For or against gay marriage. At the end of the day, its about winning and losing. There is no point in going against Hillary if in the end it is likely to result in something worse than Hillary. Its nothing more than Game Theory. You pick the action that is most likely to result in the best outcome for yourself. Since the chances of "other option than Hillary" will never win, I am presented with 2 choices. Trump or Hillary. As I believe that Trump is the worst outcome, I therefore have to pick Hillary. It has nothing to do with being a good little Dem, it has everything to do with the fact the Republican's have failed to provide an option that is better than Hillary from my personal standpoint. If I didnt believe Trump as a person was completely off the reservation, I may have been tempted to go another direction than Hillary. Hey this was pretty good.

I saved it for you forever.

Honestly, you seem to be using "party line" in several different ways here, but mostly pretty idiosyncratically. I reject any definition that means a party apparatus enforces rigid ideological adherence if people recognize that voting for the party rather than voting to assuage their own ego. Bingo

If the democrats nominated donald trump, I would not be voting democrat. I'm sorry that your party hates America and everything it stands for, but it's not the democrats fault for electing a pretty milquetoast centrist with policy knowledge and experience.

Claire McCaskill did not go to the 2012 convention, she is still a democratic senator sitting on the armed services committee. Why didn't she fall in line and get punished?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) This is the evidence. Everyone is scared to step out of line, despite there being differences in philosophy. Even a guy like Bernie Sanders falls right back into line to his party bosses, despite his obvious divide. On the other side of the ledger there are all kinds of guys who are refusing to endorse Trump. One guy steps out of line on the Democratic side, and he is an "asshole" and pretty much taken out of an key positions by the party. What punishments is the non-Trump GOP facing? This is so patently absurd. You have one example, Joe Lieberman, who was actively campaigning for John McCain and openly seeking the VP endorsement for him. Please show me the Republican actively campaigning for Clinton right now, and lets see the wonderful treatment they get.

08-10 dems (mainly the house dems) whipped only the required dem members in order to pass a bill then largely would let vulnerable dems in conservative districts to vote against if desired. A lot of those dems lost to republicans, they were not primaried out. Dems also took in Charlie Crist and Arlen Specter. Seems dubious. While you could make the argument that sanders was just muscled in by threat of "punishment" (he of 74 years of age and a longtime senator rarely in positions of power), it is more likely that the dems worked in a lot of his ideas in the platform, he sees a clinton presidency a high likelihood of making the US more like he wanted, whereas a trump presidency clearly would move it backward. This is kind of the calculation that happens. Policies kind of matter a lot.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 11:33 AM) For real, as asinine as this primary got, the 2008 primaries were so much uglier. Clinton (as in, herself and her campaign directly, not others) did next to no negative campaigning this time. Bush-McCain / Brown/Clinton

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 11:29 AM) I don't see the Semien/Micah/Sanchez pileup and Timmy as that closely related. Despite the plan clearly being to move Anderson along quickly, we still went and acquired a 2B who ultimately isn't as good as Semien. I think we'd be a better team with Semien instead of Lawrie, especially when you factor in years of control. We'll see if Ynoa and Burdi can bridge the gap. We also lost the possibility of trading semien for some other package.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) I don't know who I am voting for or if I am voting for all but it wasn't going to be HRC or Bernie. But to see him roast her for as long as he has and then sit up there and talk about how fierce she is, wow. His facebook followers are absolutely roasting him. All those donations to help him fight to the convention and then to bow out and support everything that he had said was evil. That's pretty disappointing. I don't recall him ever saying Clinton was evil, but if you thought the HRC/Sanders primary was nasty, then I hope you enjoyed your first primary.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 12, 2016 -> 11:16 AM) Do candidates usually announce their VP pick before the convention or after? I can't recall any convention that did not feature a speech by the VP nominee.

Just feel the need to say that I think RBG was out of bounds making comments on the election. Scalia started it, she is adding on to it. I hope it stops.

Your pick bud. I'm in night classes now and slowing down but I set a goal of 16 books in 16 and I'm only at 6.

It was always amazing to this point just how decent the sox record were considering the aesthetics last year. They were like the dementors of baseball, sucking the happiness out of everything. Trayce was the only bright spot last year. This year just feels more like normal baseball, but true to the last few years, Sox just never seem to get a positive career year. Seems like it's been ages since we had the surprise out of nowhere player.

I get that people don't want sox to be burned by trading away thompson/montas/m.johnson, but the constant effort to trash anyone as terrible as soon as they leave. The constant refrain of how Semein will never make it (newsflash, his defense has improved and he is a good hitter) and oh, how terrible Trayce is. Trayce is better than Austin Jackson. If you would have asked what TT was last year, everyone pretty much would have been happy if he was a .740 OPS CF with dope defense. But on the Dodgers he's awful, terrible. I hope Trayce is great. He deserves time to develop. He may end up as someone who just had three hot ML months, or those three hot ML months show that he can play at this level. Give him time.

I expect Levine to really add some insight here. "And I'm hearing White sox GM rick somebody has been fielding calls on Rod Frazierre".

Are they open to public? Just a small set of bleachers for scouts?

Glad I filled that quota.

Honestly kind of amazed that that's what the AZL stadiums look like.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 11:59 AM) I wish I was more excited for Mr Robot, like you guys are. I liked Season 1 quite a bit when I just went with it, but I have very low confidence they can continue this story in a way that doesn't get extremely convoluted.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) I did. That was some amazingly well-done, nerve-racking entertainment. I was on the edge of my seat for much of the first episode. Once he got booked i got in, but he did so much dumb s*** and tried to escape that I was kind of annoyed the whole time. like "Should I be rooting that this guy just escape a murder scene where his new friend just died?"

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 11:43 AM) I'm not giving these people that much credit. They don't know the difference, they were still saying that s*** in 2013. Ha, well yes those are the same people who now check in on one playoff game and then say the NBA is just a bunch of iso hero ball and how great college is.