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I guess the one thing I'd say is he feels like a guy that wouldn't improve under the sox as much as slowly atrophy from all of his college numbers until we are saying when he's brought up as a 25 year old 26th man "wow another white sox first rounder made the big leagues" lol

Eh, Virginia guys have so much unfucking to do with their swings. Steele Walker was a no for me because it was a situation of only the sox thinking he'd stay in CF and with average power he kinda needed to. Hasn't seemed like people doubt his ability to be CF. And is he really finding power this year or just consistency with it? Power is coming from more xbh not just homers. Hard at this side of the board. I would rather go a bit more of a bet on higher end traits but I think this skepticism is already kinda baked into a late first pick.

I pretty much just care about innings. His arm has so much buildup to go

His line has surged, just an awesome turnaround. Kind of a ho hum day otherwise.

I don’t know didn’t he demand some off days when he had a big run of usage?

While allowing four plus runs!!!

Mendick = lead off hitter

Every time I see Yaz’s slash line it defies belief. This is Konerko 03 first half territory. There are probably hundreds of baseball players that could have outperformed his hitting in the minors. Anyway I don’t think we end June with any illusions of coming back. The pitching is regressing and the hitting has not. This team has all the 2015 vibes and I have never experienced a Sox team take off in the second half like the 83 team. June is always the deciding month.

This is actually a board of people who are thrilled watching someone turn themselves from a late round draft pick into getting mlb run like Danny Mendick.

I was hoping June 1st cuts would lead to something soon but I guess we really are just in a slog until late July.

Colson Montgomery with 2 BBS

Why was Martin scratched?

exactly see the wrangling between nationals/orioles way back when

yeah there is zero chance that's true.

I don't think people on this board realize how big chicago metro area is. People have been talking about how houston will overtake chicago since I was in elementary school, and it will still be 8-10 more years until that happens. Nashville is wonderful, I wish it the best. Nashville is slightly bigger than power metro Milwaukee, and it is already straining under the growth. It's actually quite difficult to scale up cities quickly before they hit growing pains that can constrain it's population growth. See tacoma, see Denver. By then a new hot, cheaper city (northwest arkansas, likely) will pop up and be the new place we think the sox will move that is obviously better. By sheer market size and growth, there should be no greater sports market than Tampa. Yet we are talking about moving the Rays out of there. It took atlanta a long time to build up a lot of its sports fandom. There are no guarantees in this. The white sox have a built in floor much higher than any of these new markets, and the league can just expand rather than move teams.

It's also not true

the thing about football teams in the suburbs is there are 8 home games a year and they are all-day events and mostly during off-traffic hours. The thing about baseball teams is they play 81 game at home largely in early evening where you are asking people to get in their cars during rush hour and get in the traffic flow that is moving away from the city. All people in the suburbs imagine a suburban stadium in the suburb next door. Well, what if' it's on the opposite side of you? I am in a western suburb. When I have friends move north or south they may as well be moving out of state. When we see each other it's ...in the centrally located city.

Definitely. As all sports orgs have seen the last 30 years, moving to growing, transient populations like Tampa or Charlotte are surefire ways to get tons of revenue.

Are you arguing 2015 was better than this? It wasn't.

yeah this has felt so much like 2015 to me. Just unwatchable. And as I pointed out a few weeks ago that team actually hovered close to competitiveness until june before a long losing streak. Everything is a single. Every homer is solo. Everything is difficult.

The sox have a catcher in charlotte whose bat has been so good the last two years he is their DH when not catching. Anyway this was the stretch I was worried about. The hitting hasn't become great, and at some point the pitching wouldn't be excellent and we'd lose a lot of games and the "well at least we are .500" would be "we are 10 games under .500 on july 1". Just a really bad year so far.

It really kills me. The white sox and their broader media shills largely want fans only to focus on the white sox. The fact is, white sox player development has improved, especially over the last 6 years. International scouting and its production has improved. Drafting by and large has improved. I But the white sox aren't competing against the 2014 white sox. Zoom out and within their own division it is hard to identify who they beat head to head. They are at best 3rd. In general, the white sox have improved at getting more out of their farm, but have gotten way, way worse at getting returns from mlb free agents. Hahn took over in 2013. At the time, I would actually say the white sox had one part of their operation that may have been best in the league. Cooper and Schneider's philosophies were compatible and had a clear pitching type that Kenny was able to provide. Their health was best in baseball. Hitters got better at velo, cutters went out of vogue, and the sox had to move on. What part of the organization can Hahn claim is the best in baseball? Is our scouting? Is our drafting? Is our hitting development? Pitching development? Strength and conditioning? Advanced scouting? What hahn would do is point out examples of teams that do x and are worse than the sox. But Hahn cannot point to anything he does that is better than the rays or dodgers or giants or astros. It is striking how similar hahn has made this org to the paxson era bulls. He has led a much more successful rebuild, but the white sox are so quick to point out how the excesses of a certain philosophy can lead to failures. You want us to spend spend spend but spending didn't help the Rangers this year (eesh, they have a better record than us, eesh)! You want analytics analytics analytics well look at how kevin cash pulled blake snell! But they can never look around and see how their moderation has failed to give them an advantage over the best teams in baseball, teams they are ostensibly competing with for championships. The white sox can only operate by hiring people they like and letting them do their jobs. No overarching philosophies and team building structures. The other teams are wrong, and given a long enough timeline, we will be proven right at least once and it will validate everything.

Jordan Mikel, forgot to check in on him.

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