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Eloy was in the 20s when he was acquired, at least in BA. He then destroyed hi-a in august and was universally top 10. He also had a 130 wRC+ in 2019. And you are 100% right on how people forget about opportunity cost in this. They lost a cy young finalist and eventual top ten prospect in baseball for a guy that didn't move the needle. It was Hahn's second best trade imo.

Here is me being charitable It feels like there was a lot of guys who played yesterday sitting today, and yesterday was a day game in 100 degree heat.

I don't consider any of them busts yet (except dalquist)

Well, i'll take pride in not admiring Paddy, but he is by far the most complicated figure. I still don't think those failures listed are that uncommon or that big a deal. But they stick out because we don't sign enough of them. Reminds me of how this board was so anti-prep player because we couldn't develop them. The reality was prospects fail, and we never drafted prep guys, so having a bad run of the handfull we did was stuck in people's minds. Now we have colson and nobodies bothered, despite the fact that Kath, Dalquist, Macdougal and Kelly are all flaming out pretty much.

Korey Lee has played in 186 games in AAA, the league that sits below the majors. He's 25. This isn't the 20 year old in AA guys.

@Buehrle>Wood catchin Ws. I still keep wondering...what if that's Getz pitch to JR? And JR was impressed by his moxy and was talking about that with Bob?

One of the strongest arms on record this year, gets 10 mph more than Perez on throws. Despite slower pop time, his 1.95 pop time to second is in the group with Christian Vazquez and Austin Hedges. But to put it in perspective, JT Realmuto is 1.83 seconds to 2nd, and Patrick Baily is 1.87. Those dudes are hell on the base runners.

Carlos Perez pop time is 1.99 while he was up, while the mlb average is 2.0. While his arm is weak, he has a top 10 exchange time.

Seby, the 34 wRC+ catcher with the heart of gold.

correct. But i'm further getting the vibes she IS a perfect Jerry hire. Comes from an org where they can obscure whose authority exists so nobody is ever at fault.

Bummer, our DSL team was pretty good at 31-22. Shame they missed out. If only Luis Reyes wasn't garbage.

hired nov 2020...2021...2022...2023 2 atrocious drafts, limited prospect capital, maxxed budget...fighting uphill for the last wildcard spot. Sounds like a Kenny Williams disciple to me.

They were trades, and have nothing to do with budget. Esp weird since Hahn also managed to land Burger via the draft. Burger may be a better draft pick than any of Kim Ngs. This is just way overhyping someone who performed a good trade vs Rick Hahn, whom everyone agrees was the worst GM in baseball. But if you remove that...there's not very much that's impressive happening in Miami.

Hard not to read Law's latest and see that all of Hahns player WAR worth writing about were Laumann picks. That guy went out on an awful pick (Fulmer), but I would have much rather seen him handle 2016 than Hostetler. That draft killed the rebuild.

Rick Hahn fired Doug Laumann for Nick Hostetler and then hired Chris Getz right before he got the reins for the rebuild. WHen the farm was about to be the most important thing to his success, he handed control to the worst scouting director of my sox lifetime, and a guy who had virtually zero player dev experience right before player development was about to go through a revolution. He deserves no sympathy because he couldn't choose the manager. The fact that he thought the manager was what the team was missing just shows that he sucks.

I don't buy the burger power struggle. I think they can only focus on one thing at a time, and solving catcher + pitching staff became more urgent than "offense" so Burger went. I still like Eder thou

is DSL over?

sadly, I can't think of a single instance Morosi has had his pulse on where the sox were going. At this point, I need to hear real momentum on Rizzo's contract breaking down. But I'd still feel (for mizzou fans) like we'd just be the foil for a new deal. I could believe Rizzo gets this job. I have to imagine JR was horrified that Click had to be fired because he wasn't best friends with the owner.

Definitely weird. When I struggle with people at work I'm always floored since we all speak english. Strange we'd have any differences.

I feel a lot of this. I'm gonna be honest, I have watched under 10 games this year. I've gone to only 1. If you were to tell me after the loss in 2021 that that happened, I'd OF COURSE have believed you, but would have been crushed. Crazy it's only 1.5 years from then to here. But, I do think if somehow Mike RIzzo shows up, I'll probably snap back into gear. I do think building a winning baseball org is by far the most interesting task in sports. It's a shame we had 20 years of guys who would rather play golf.

yeah that acronym sucks. I'd like AZL better!

the best part about james click is it means not having to act like the manager is this crucial part of the org, imo

I am a bit floored by this sentiment. Their team is 2 back for the last wild card spot with 2 teams to leap. They are a few over .500. They have been rebuilding this roster for 6 years now. Trying to look at what parts of the org are so admirable right now. - 3 years in, they have a worse farm than the White Sox (26th overall) - Highly touted draft picks like Khalil Watson regressed each year. The second 1st rounder they had, Joe Mack, is only their 22nd rated prospect and is struggling again. - They had the sixth overall pick in 2022, selected and here is the write-up: Their Free Agency period this year was a disaster. Now, where she is good: trades. - The Starling Marte for Jesus Luzardo trade was very good. He's great. - Traded for Tanner Scott - Traded for Luis Arraez - Traded for AJ Puk whose been a good reliever. But much of that staff she inherited. That team that came over from the yankees under Jeter were great at finding intl talent previously...and Ng is reaping the rewards. Eury Perez, Edward Cabrera, both part of an insane 2019 class. I don't know, I'd take that previous marlins front office, personally. I thought that middle-decade yankees Front Office was pretty strong, and cashman has been struggling since they left for the marlins.

Just glad we no longer have posters crusading that tatis is actually still bad and law was just trying to stick it to the Sox. That said, I had my qualms with the international part of the section. And yes I did cancel my athletic sub, but it turned out I had auto renewed in March for the year so not much of a statement made.

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