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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 03:00 AM) I posted that to show that it made no sense for you to say that Nelson isn't worth much because he can't get lefties out. Vizcaino couldn't get lefties out either last season. Would you not want Vizcaino right now because he couldn't get lefties out? First off I never said he's not worth much just because he can't get lefties out, that is one of the many reasons. The fact is, I don't think Jeff has anything left, watch him pitch and tell me that frisbee is unhittable like it used to be because it's not, it hangs up there to hit a lot now when before you couldn't touch that pitch. Notice also how Viz almost pitched as many innings against lefties last year as Nelson pitched for the entire year. I just don't think Nelson would help this team, that is all.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 02:50 AM) Last season, Nelson was pretty good -- 36.2 IP, 3.93 ERA, 1.47 WHIP, .237 BAA. But you trust in Thornton and Logan? Thornton has been terrible in both two seasons of his career and Logan has pitched a grand total of 5.1 innings at Single A. How could you question Nelson's ability but be fine with Thornton and Logan? I can actually show you that Nelson has had good seasons in the recent past. You can't actually show me that either Thornton or Logan have had good seasons to prove that they are better options than Nelson. By the way, here's another reason why it makes no sense to bash Nelson's inability to get lefties out... Luis Vizcaino (2005 stats vs. lefties): 28.0 IP, 1.82 WHIP, .321 BAA We did just fine with Vizcaino even though lefties shellacked him all last season. When did I ever say that I trust either Matt or Boone? I think Nelson is done and I'd rather give the other two the opportunity because they both have some potential while the only potential Nelson has is to get even worse. Now we're throwing viz out there to prove that Nelson is going to be good? Mmmkay.

If Verlander doesn't become a star in this league, I'll be shocked.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 02:35 AM) I'll take actual production over the possibility of upside any day of the week. Nelson has had good seasons recently. When exactly? The guy was ok last year and he barely pitched. He sucked in 04 and wasn't very good in 03 either. This isn't the dominate Nelson from his prime seattle days anymore. Just watch him pitch a few innings and you'll see that.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 02:27 AM) So you would rather have Matt Thornton, Boone Logan, and/or Javier Lopez in the bullpen than Jeff Nelson? To be honest, I would rather give Thornton and Logan a shot because the last two guys in the pen are not going to be used much and those two have some upside where Nelson has absolutely 0.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 02:15 AM) Actually, Nelson was good last season. Meanwhile, Thornton can't get anybody out. He walks the world. There are a lot more righty hitters than lefties in the MLB. Why are we carrying a LOOGY like Logan or Lopez then? A guy who can dominate righties has much more value than a guy who can dominate lefties. And I sure hope that Ozzie doesn't play Ozuna at 2B when Iguchi sits considering Cintron is better than Ozuna. The guy pitched a whole 9 innings the 2nd half last year and got beat around in those innings he did pitch. He's old, he was once one of the most dominate relievers in the game but he just doesn't have much left in the tank. As far as him dominating righties, if the game is on the line I'd rather have Neal, Cliff or Bobby in there. Jeff is just breaking down, he's not going to be effective for a whole season and when you watch him pitch you can see that his frisbee just doesn't have the same snap it used to. I really don't think this team needs him.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 02:04 AM) Cintron can also play 2B and I would use him there before Ozuna. The only thing that Ozuna provides that Cintron doesn't is his speed. The first guy I would dump is Thornton but he seems to be Cooper's project and is likely here to stay. I'm assuming that Thornton is going to be bad this season (not a bold prediction). Regardless, a good reliever like Nelson would help us win more games than having Ozuna on the bench. Nelson hasn't been very good in a while and yes I know Cintron can play 2nd but like I said I think that is going to be pablos job. What is Nelson going to be our newly found roogy? Nelson hasn't been able to get out lefties for a long, long time now. We don't need him.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 01:38 AM) Which is a shame. Ozuna will barely see any playing time with Mackowiak, Cintron, and Gload on the team. I'd rather have a good reliever than a pinch runner on the team. Mack is going to be the primary backup outfielder and I believe Pablo will give Tad a break at least once a week and bat 2nd. Plus he is a nice weapon to have off the bench cause of his speed. I'm not huge on having 7 relievers, I believe it's going to be hard enough as it is to find innings for some of the middle guys, I'm not sure we need an extra who really might never pitch.

I'll make around 450 if Florida wins it all, about 300 if anyone but Florida or UCLA win it all, and about 150 if UCLA wins it. I'm getting a decent amount of cash either way at least.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 26, 2006 -> 08:12 PM) I would sign Nelson, send Ozuna to AAA, and then try to slip Thornton through waivers to AAA later in the season and bring Ozuna back up. Pablo isn't going anywhere.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 27, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) It's close. I think LSUs shot-blocking ability gives them the edge. UCLA just doesn't let up points. 10 of their last 11 games they've allowed under 60, I know they play a slower style of offense but that's just insane.

I want to be on but I can't. With me having money on Florida to win it all from like 2 months ago, I got to cheer for them.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 26, 2006 -> 07:05 PM) LSU. They easily have the best front-court and overall defense of any team left. UCLA defense>LSU defense.

Ya, I like Florida as well. I'm just hoping it's anyone but the Bruins.

I don't think there is any doubt that this is Nova's worst game of the year. Congrats to Florida for getting to the ff. I'm rooting for them to win it.

With that dunk I think UF has their ticket ready to Indy to see greasy.

Nova in a lot of trouble now. Going to have to get hot from 3 to have a shot.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 26, 2006 -> 06:08 PM) This game's boring compared to everything else we've seen lately. You're spoiled.

QUOTE(SnB @ Mar 26, 2006 -> 05:53 PM) seems like the same old story for them. This really is BC all over again.

Nova is shooting 24 percent and is down 3. Unbelievable.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 26, 2006 -> 05:34 PM) Ahh not anymore. My bracket was f***ed either way it turns out. I just hate the 4 guard style, it is a constant reminder how badly the 3 point line needs to be moved back. Nova can't hit a 3 to save their lives in this tourny and they keep advancing so I'm not sure if that's the best example.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 26, 2006 -> 05:08 PM) The midgets finished the half strong. They are in good shape to only be down 5, but they gotta hit a lot of 3's to win. Horford and Noah will kill them inside in the 2nd half. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO Bitter.

This is the BC game all over again. Nova plays like poop, hangs around and is only down 5 at half. I think they'll play better in the 2nd half and win this game.

Well I remembered about a week ago that in January I put some money down on Florida to win it all(if you remember I was touting them on here about how they were the best team I saw all year) but I changed my champ pick to nova because Florida scared me a bit down the stretch. Anyways, I guess I have a chance to win more money now if UF wins this thing cause I still win my pool if they win it all.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 26, 2006 -> 04:25 PM) Their guards suck. I disagree with this whole heartedly. Darrell Mitchell is pretty damn good, and while Garret Temple might not be a star he is one hell of a defender. They don't have the best guards around but they certainly don't suck.