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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 02:10 PM) Chacin not being anything special is a load of crap. Sure, Toronto overpaid for all of their additions this year, but they would've been better than the White Sox this year. I don't exactly remembering praising Chen and Cabrera. Could you link me? Honestly, I don't remember that. I like Cabrera's stuff, but that's as far as I remember in terms of praising. But please help me remember me. Oh yeah, since you know so much about me, what did I have for dinner last night? No offense nite but there is no way the Blue Jays are better then last years sox team.

QUOTE(chisox2334 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) first off we dont make the deicsions thats whitesox orginazation decision. Second next offseason he could be gone due to scot boras being his agent. I will be lookin foward 2006 season. Joe Crede is not a fa after this season.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) Maybe he'll come up and play in Game 7 of the ALCS with a bloody shoulder and back and crank one out of the ballpark and well invade Fenway and talk about it 500 times for each time we see him on the field. And Frankie Francisco only throws chairs at opposing teams fans. He seems like the Ozzie type. He had 28 walks in 51 innings in 04, he might be aiming for opposing fans but he still might hit me.

QUOTE(LDF @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) and i will say this, in most of all the trades that the sox's have made, most of these beat writers, who have far more access to the baseball scouts, managers, gm and owners have acknowledge that the sox overpaid at the time. hind sight is one thing to make a judgement call, but we need to look at the talent at the time. Is it just a coincidence that every single spect kenny has traded has turned out to be nothing so far? He has an idea of what guys he needs to keep and which guys he needs to get rid of. It really doesnt make sense to judge a trade before the players step on the field, hell..that actually makes no sense at all.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) Frankie Francisco No thanks, I prefer not to have chairs thrown at me while I'm watching a game.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:19 AM) Yeah, I don't know about him as a starter. When most scouting websites say he could be either/or, that means he'll be better off in the bullpen. His arm would be Neal Cotts from the right side. Ha, that's the exact same comparison I thought of. He's got a better fastball in terms of mph but his motion is one where his fastball would sneak up there on hitters.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 10:09 AM) But the Vasquez trade leaves me scratching my head. And it is not so much Kenny Williams I have criticism for, it is the Sox fans on this website who want to just dump Jon Garland now. To that I think -- what ungrateful, and uneducated, fans. Vasquez is no match for Garland as a pitcher, and had we had Javier instead of Jon last year, we'd still be singing the second place blues. Vazquez is no match for Jon Garland yet he has better career numbers. Working miracles was getting a guy who couldn't throw a strike to become our best pitcher, getting a man who had previous seasons comparable to some league aces to return to that form isn't a miracle. To you I think--what an ungrateful, and uneducated fan.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:29 AM) Yes. Sleep helps the memory consolidation and makes memory retrieval easier. I'll take your word for it. I got a little sleep, that first final today went pretty well. One more and I'm done.

QUOTE(WHITESOXRANDY @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:38 AM) KW NEEDS to trade Garland and Crede now. The best trading partner is probably Texas. They have Blalock, Wilkerson and some good pitching prospects. There is a good chance that a deal could be worked out here. Crede is not a fa after this season so I don't understand why we have to trade him, in your words.

I want to say first that I love the idea of Tracey coming out of the bullpen. I don't think much of him as a starting pitching propsect but I think he can be damn solid out of the pen especially being the last guy out of the pen to replace Viz.

Think it would be a bad idea to pull an all nighter when you have a 10 o'clock final that morning?

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:26 AM) Mike Porzio signed an autograph for me, and the guy wreaked of a bottle of jim beam. Congrats, you might be the only person in the world who asked Mike Porzio for an autograph.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 01:50 AM) It means my prediction of December 27th could be spot on. All I need is Garland trade and I'll be in the driver's seat. Horray. :sleep

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 01:45 AM) and I just think everyone is expecting him to have another great season, which I think is a little unrealistic. I don't see why at all. That being said I was completely opposed to trading him unless another starter was acquired, obviously one was and now I have no problem dealing him for the right package or player.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 01:36 AM) I've been a supporter of Jon Garland for a long time, as many Soxtalk veterans can attest to. However, I have never believed Jon wanted to make it career in silver and black. Why is Kenny probably going to trade Garland? Let's look at AJ Burnett vs. Garland. I may be slightly off on some of this as I'm going from memory. Burnett is 29, Garland 26. They've had the same number of big league seasons. Garland has about 15 more career wins than Burnett. Burnett got sent home by his team last season. Burnett has had arm problems leading to DL time while Garland has pitched 200+ innings every year since he stepped in as a rotation fixture. Who's more valuable, Garland or Burnett? Burnett just signed a 5 year $55 million contract. What would Garland command. he can use all those points in his negotiations. Is 7 years at $12 million per extravagant in comparison? Garland can make a logical argument for it in my opinion. Is JR going to sign him to a 7 year $84 million contract? I seriously doubt it. I think the reason KW is looking to trade Garland is pretty self evident. Great Post yas, summed it up perfectly.

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:48 AM) Charles johnson was the first sox autograph i ever got at a game. Josh Paul From my town, went to a bad high school though. Keep the catcher theme going, Mark Johnson.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:33 AM) Mike Caruso. Kalapse. Brook Fordyce.

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) -I'll post the name of a relatively obscure white sox player from the past -you post a memory/moment that you remember about him -you post your own player I'll get it started with....... LORENZO BARCELO Injuries, that's honestly the one thing I remember about him because I really thought he was going to be a very solid pitcher. MIKE PORZIO.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 12:21 AM) so we can all piss and whine and f***ing cry over every little pissant move our GM makes? damn... how soon you morons forget what we just accomplished. ENJOY what is happening... and realize that management is not sitting on their ass while everyone gets better, we are getting a LOT better. It's funny cause most of the contenders in the AL have not got that much better yet the team who just won the world series has got much better. Kenny knows what he's doing and he's doing a hell of a job making this team a legit WS contender this year and beyond.

Expect the unexpected. I really have no clue what is going to happen next.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:53 PM) Even though I like the moves that Kenny has made thus far, I can see where you're coming from. I have no idea why people are flipping out, though. So what, the dude is sentimental. Don't let that stop you from responding with some classless nonsense. It's more the fact that he's calling Kenny Williams evil for trying to improve the team, that's ridiculous. I think all of us are going to miss certain players that are now gone but I want to f***in win this thing again, last October was to damn fun, I want that again.

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:12 PM) I know they added Beckett, but they have lost Renteria and it looks like they will lose Damon and possibly Manny. Mueller is gone and Schilling is one year older. How have they improved? And the Blue Jays? Come on, they're the Blue Jays. The Angels used to scare me, but we proved that we can dominate them (even though they were Colon-less). That only leaves Oakland and the Yankees as the teams that look like threats. Oakland never succeeds in the playoffs and the Yankees have been finding ways to lose with all that talent, so I don't see anyone but ourselves in the way of a second straight pennant. If you don't think Boston has improved then the Yankees sure as hell haven't. Neither of those teams scare me to be honest. The A's are going to be good but they do not scare me come playoff time, to be honest the two teams that scare me the most in the AL are in our own division, Twins moreso then the Tribe.

QUOTE(TLAK @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) Every one of them except Frank contributed, thats how that team worked. Sure they all contributed but outside of Aaron none of them were important to this team at all. We've got rid of our 3 worst pitchers and have added a guy with a number 1's arm, one of the better lh hitters in baseball and one of best utility guys in the game. Right now this team is much better then lasts on paper.

QUOTE(TLAK @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:41 PM) Intellectually I know you guys have a good case. But after years and years and years of failure this group of guys put it all together - so KW responds by tearing them apart. He's not tearing anything apart, we've lost 1 guy who played a major role for this team last year.

f*** YOU KENNY WILLIAMS, f*** YOU FOR BRINGING US THAT WORLD TITLE AND f*** YOU FOR TRYING TO MAKE THIS TEAM BETTER. I CANT BELEVE YOU WOULD TRADE THE GREAT EL DUQUE, MY GAWD. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH