Rowand44

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:30 PM) As soon as the cubs get respectable again, it will be a cubs town again. And yet, i couldn't care less. If the Sox keep winning I wouldn't be so sure about that. It's been a sox town before and it could certainly be one again.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 08:25 PM) I'd assume its because I'm pretty familiar with the farm system, plus I have a history of being pretty accurate when it comes to evaluating prospects (well I don't overhype them usually, Young may be the one exception cause I've been oozing and raving about him for a few years). Show off.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 08:20 PM) Meanwhile, while proving Rowand44's point for him...

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) Yes, you said possible 40/40, you said he is going to be a 30/30 guy like it was a guarantee.

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 08:13 PM) How come when I say he's a possible 40/40 guy, I get mocked, but when you say he'll hit 30-40 and possibly 50 HR's, nothing is said to you? You didnt say possible, your wording made it sound like he was guaranteed to be a 30/30 guy.

QUOTE(Chek2002 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 08:08 PM) Appearing on ESPN News,Tim Kurkjian said that the White Sox and Rangers are discussing a trade that would send 3B Hank Blalock to the Sox for P Jon Garland and 3B Joe Crede. Did he say they were discussing it or did he just say it made sense? Cause he just threw it out there on sc saying it would make sense.

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:59 PM) god damnit, my shrink told me all i'm doing is pushing the people i love out of my life. i'm sorry heads, you know my true feelings about you. Shut up Doug.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:42 PM) Miller rehabed his arm and was really good last year (once he got rolling). If his stuff is back a package of the two of them would be nice, but I'd like to find a way to get an arm that we could immediately throw into the pen as well. Thats the reason I like Broxton. I hear ya, and Broxton is another guy that I thought of. If Kenny is looking to trade Jon for young arms the Dodgers for sure make the most sense.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:35 PM) What about LHP Greg Miller? I know he was hurt. But he was lights out before sitting out 2004. If the sox got a sure thing like Billingsley, they could take a gamble that Miller could stay healthy Billingsley and Miller was actually the package I was thinking of. Miller was pretty damn solid last year actually but he's not the elite prospect that he was though he's still pretty damn good. You get an elite pitching spect and another damn good one and that's not bad at all.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) Yayo. Finished my first semester with a 4.0. Nerd.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:32 PM) If he's this good a prospect, shouldn't we have gotten somebody better for him? That's all I'm asking. If he's this great why did we have to include 3 players in the deal? $$$$$$$$

QUOTE(TLAK @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:04 PM) But getting past that I’m having a hard time buying into all the love being showered on Kenny Williams. Kenny Williams built the team that won us our first world series since 1917, it's really not hard to understand why he's getting showered with love.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:53 PM) I was just about to post Liu Rodriguez. I remember him being like one of the Sox top prospects in the middle infield when Ray-Ray was still here. Haha. Mark L. Johnson You are officially eliminated from this game for listing a player that has already been talked about.

All done.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) I'm asking for Brandon Wood. I don't care if the LAAA GM hangs up on you, doesn't hurt to ask. If, of course, the scenario came up with a trade to the Halos... To be honest, that would be the only way I'd trade Jon to the Angels if one of the spects we were getting back was Brandon Wood. Otherwise, I'd prefer not to send him to an AL playoff contender.

QUOTE(dmbjeff @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:37 PM) if its a stud 2b, 3b prospect who will be ready by 07 AND a quality reliever or 2 who are ready now, id be for it. Iguchi and Crede will still be here in 07 for the record.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 02:10 PM) Chacin not being anything special is a load of crap. Sure, Toronto overpaid for all of their additions this year, but they would've been better than the White Sox this year. I don't exactly remembering praising Chen and Cabrera. Could you link me? Honestly, I don't remember that. I like Cabrera's stuff, but that's as far as I remember in terms of praising. But please help me remember me. Oh yeah, since you know so much about me, what did I have for dinner last night? No offense nite but there is no way the Blue Jays are better then last years sox team.

QUOTE(chisox2334 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) first off we dont make the deicsions thats whitesox orginazation decision. Second next offseason he could be gone due to scot boras being his agent. I will be lookin foward 2006 season. Joe Crede is not a fa after this season.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) Maybe he'll come up and play in Game 7 of the ALCS with a bloody shoulder and back and crank one out of the ballpark and well invade Fenway and talk about it 500 times for each time we see him on the field. And Frankie Francisco only throws chairs at opposing teams fans. He seems like the Ozzie type. He had 28 walks in 51 innings in 04, he might be aiming for opposing fans but he still might hit me.

QUOTE(LDF @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) and i will say this, in most of all the trades that the sox's have made, most of these beat writers, who have far more access to the baseball scouts, managers, gm and owners have acknowledge that the sox overpaid at the time. hind sight is one thing to make a judgement call, but we need to look at the talent at the time. Is it just a coincidence that every single spect kenny has traded has turned out to be nothing so far? He has an idea of what guys he needs to keep and which guys he needs to get rid of. It really doesnt make sense to judge a trade before the players step on the field, hell..that actually makes no sense at all.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) Frankie Francisco No thanks, I prefer not to have chairs thrown at me while I'm watching a game.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 11:19 AM) Yeah, I don't know about him as a starter. When most scouting websites say he could be either/or, that means he'll be better off in the bullpen. His arm would be Neal Cotts from the right side. Ha, that's the exact same comparison I thought of. He's got a better fastball in terms of mph but his motion is one where his fastball would sneak up there on hitters.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 10:09 AM) But the Vasquez trade leaves me scratching my head. And it is not so much Kenny Williams I have criticism for, it is the Sox fans on this website who want to just dump Jon Garland now. To that I think -- what ungrateful, and uneducated, fans. Vasquez is no match for Garland as a pitcher, and had we had Javier instead of Jon last year, we'd still be singing the second place blues. Vazquez is no match for Jon Garland yet he has better career numbers. Working miracles was getting a guy who couldn't throw a strike to become our best pitcher, getting a man who had previous seasons comparable to some league aces to return to that form isn't a miracle. To you I think--what an ungrateful, and uneducated fan.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:29 AM) Yes. Sleep helps the memory consolidation and makes memory retrieval easier. I'll take your word for it. I got a little sleep, that first final today went pretty well. One more and I'm done.

QUOTE(WHITESOXRANDY @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:38 AM) KW NEEDS to trade Garland and Crede now. The best trading partner is probably Texas. They have Blalock, Wilkerson and some good pitching prospects. There is a good chance that a deal could be worked out here. Crede is not a fa after this season so I don't understand why we have to trade him, in your words.