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QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:58 AM) I read that article. Absolutely ridiculous By his logic, they should trade wood, prior, and zambrano for position players due to their higher win shares totals. Also, he advocates getting rid of great starting pitchers because they will become expensive pretty soon. We're talking about the Cubs here, not the Royals. That article is horrible. You don't give up a stud starting pitcher for a stud position player, ever.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:54 AM) Phil Rogers is advocating they trade Zambrano to get Tejada. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines That would not be smart on the Cubs part.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:14 AM) If Marte was horrendous, what was Mike Jackson two seasons ago? Or Shingo Takatsu earlier last season? I don't want our ballclub to endure any pitching retread (ie, the remaining FA bullpen help) that will remind us of the previously mentioned players. Not many appear worried about trading Marte. If you believe he departure was neccessary, fine. Now, locate a suitable replacement. Where's he going to come from, for how much, and is the pitcher of equal or greater value? I just won't accept a drop in bullpen production for the sake of a supersub in Macowiak. Signing Dotel seems a reasonable solution, but it doesn't help us for the first several months. Basically, I'm looking at it like the Duke is Damaso's replacement. Another reliever would just be an extra I guess you could say, that's why I honestly have no problem with a Baj or Munoz. I do love the Dotel idea though. Anyways, I think Orlando will be much better in the pen then Damaso was last year, his arm is so much stronger coming out of the pen that it makes his junk much better as well. Cheat makes a good point about Kenny not even giving Ozzie a chance to be cute with a 2nd lefty.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:00 AM) It doesn't matter to me whether a left-hander is sign specifically for the duty of retiring left-handers. My concern? Williams better locate a reliever of equal or greater value than Marte. And despite the consensus Marte was a headcase and seemingly worthless to this team, I'll GUARANTEE we'll be happy if his replacement deplicates Marte's numbers from last year. Marte literally was horrendous last year, I won't be happy with any reliever that duplicates Damaso's year.

Have a good one.

Ouch.

QUOTE(joeynach @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 03:20 PM) I would definatly sign AJ for a 2 or 3 year deal. The problem is AJ is coming off one of his worst years in terms of his batting avg, which has been the cornerstone of his game for so long. He was the guy who was always a lock for a 290-310 avg. He hit a career low .258 in 2005 for the sox. Kinda of dissapointing. It was nice to see some inflated power numbers, but that was a product of a 7 homers in 7 days tear he went on in May. AJ is still AJ and will put up career average numbers more likely than break out numbers. That being said I would look for his batting avg to rebound next year, I hope. If i was KW I would know I could probably get him on a 1 year deal for quite cheap since he had his worst year in batting avg, 1 year 3.5 mil. However, I would also try something like a 2 year 7-8 mil with an option or a 3 year 10-11 mil deal with a buyout. That should basically do it, granted AJ wants to be a White Sox for the next few years. Getting offense from AJ is secondary, any O from AJP is just a bonus.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 01:40 PM) http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5157958 Garcia, Uribe, one of our outfield prospects, and a pitching prospect? Way too much to pay for Tejada. :puke

Pierzynski longing for a few more years with Sox Sunday, December 11, 2005 By Joe Cowley Staff writerA.J. Pierzynski has no problem waiting for his turn. The White Sox catcher, however, makes no secret he would like to get a multiyear contract done that would assure he'd be staying on the South Side for at least a few more seasons. "We won the World Series and we are bringing most of the same players back," Pierzynski said from his home in Florida via a phone interview. "How could I not want to return to this team for a few more years? "I also know they needed to get some other things done first, and they won't have to make any type of decision on me for a while." Pierzynski, pitcher Jon Garland and third baseman Joe Crede are arbitration-eligible. Even if the Sox aren't looking to get a multiyear deal done for Pierzynski this offseason, he would still be Sox property and could settle on a one-year deal or opt for an arbitration hearing. Considering the history of the Sox with arbitration-eligible players, a hearing is the last resort for the organization. Since 1998, the Sox have had one player go to an arbitration hearing, reliever Keith Foulke before the 2001 season. That may change this offseason, but Pierzynski won't be the one to blame. According to one source close to the situation, Garland turned down a three-year contract offer last week. Terms of the offer were not disclosed. That means the Sox could be headed for at least one arbitration hearing before the 2006 season. Considering Crede has Scott Boras as his agent, it could very well be two. Of the three, Pierzynski seems the most willing to get something done. He earned $2.25 million in 2005, and could see his salary jump to about $4 million for '06. "I understand this is a business," said the 28-year-old Pierzynski, who will appear as a tag-team manager on TNA Wrestling's Turning Point pay-per-view event Sunday. "I've seen that end of it the last few years. But playing (for the Sox) definitely feels like home." Pierzynski was traded by Minnesota to San Francisco after the 2003 season when the Twins decided Joe Mauer was their future behind the plate. While in the Twins organization, Pierzynski grew accustomed to trading some smack talk with his teammates. That act didn't fly in San Francisco. Several Giants pitchers called Pierzynski a "clubhouse cancer" during his one season in the Bay Area. After being released by the Giants, Pierzynski signed with the Sox for the 2005 season. He had some reservations about coming to a clubhouse where he was considered Baseball Enemy No. 1 while he was with the Twins. The '05 season, however, turned out to be a storybook one for Pierzynski and the Sox. He quickly fit in, then proved to be a key fixture in the Sox's run to the World Series championship. The Sox are expected to turn their attention to Pierzynski in January. He said he has no problem waiting his turn. "Obviously, getting Jim Thome and then (re-)signing Paulie (Konerko) were more important than getting to me," Pierzynski said. "That goes without saying." While those two moves excited Pierzynski, it wasn't all sunshine and smiles. "I'm thrilled to have Thome in the lineup, but at the same time Aaron Rowand (who was traded for Thome) is a great buddy of mine," Pierzynski said. "I was disappointed that he had to go. Like I said, though, it's a business. "If we can get a center fielder that can come close to doing what 'Row' did, having Thome in the middle of the lineup ... wow. Thome, Jermaine (Dye) and Konerko ... that's as formidable a middle of the lineup as there is in the (AL Central) division." http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/ds.../pro/112sd5.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm sure there is a 3 year deal in AJ's future. AJ.

QUOTE(orangekrush88 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 09:50 AM) O YA! Something to do next Sunday Dec 18 - Mundelein- 3034 W IL Route 60 I will be there as well.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) If you want to laugh, I highly suggest reading the first couple pages of this thread. Basically you can just read the snb predictions and get a good laugh.

Happy bday Goldy.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 09:24 AM) I think that they are the only team now that has ten wins. They looked really good at Oregon and I think they now the co-favorites with Mich. St. for the Big Ten title. Iowa, Indiana, Wisconsin are good, but they are clearly not with Ill and Mich. St. Indiana>MSU imo.

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) Its Mark until Mark isn't on the Sox anymore. Correct.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 06:21 PM) Really now, how many championships would Jordan have had without Pippen? 0.

The greasy's kicked some ass.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 11:59 PM) Shh2005... or jabroni... whatever you rather call him. Was about cotts too i believe. Speaking of sig bets......

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 11:22 PM) Pippen guided the Jordan-less Bulls to the Eastern Conference Finals in 1994. f***, he was under serious consideration for MVP. If not for a phantom foul call in New York, it could have been possible the Bulls retained their crown. He'll always be remembered for being Jordans 'sidekick,' but those who know the game realize he was a quality player in his own regard. :finger Hugh Hollins.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 11:10 PM) Dotel is a FA??? Yessir.

Poptarts. w00t.

QUOTE(SnB @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) um. no. I own that category No, you'll sweep worst poster award.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 10:01 PM) Would have been better in my opinion and would have gotten alot more recognition. He was the best all around player in the league the when jordan went to try out baseball. Bingo. He's still the best defensive player ever imo at his position. Jordan continues to overshadow Pip's accomplishments even with them both out of the game now. It's unfortunate.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 09:05 PM) Losing Marte is addition by subtraction. Im not concerned at all. I wouldn't go that far. You don't agree when he had it going he had amazing stuff? Also he did the job for us in that long Series game. I'm not against the trade though. Looks like we upgraded our utility spot even though Blum hit the shot heard round the world which I forever will applaud him for. He has amazing stuff. Unfortunately, stuff means absolutely nothing with some pitchers. EDIT: And who ever said it is an addition by subtraction, I completely agree.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 07:13 PM) And yet today the Angels traded for J.C Romero. What does that tell you? They won a world series with 1 lefty, it's really not a big deal. That said our manager seems to love the matchup game, I'd honestly have no problem at all if Munoz got a shot to be that 12th pitcher and would be used sparingly until or if he proved anything. If ozzie could get over his love for the matchup game, having 1 lefty is not a problem at all.

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 06:37 PM) i dont understand why would let owens rot on the bench when he doesnt even have a year at AAA under his belt. let the guy play!!! people are worried because he was a football player and is still a raw talent, well at bats seems to be the solution to that problem, not watching brian anderson and eating sunflower seeds. I'm 100 percent with you here. I think and hope Kenny will find a solid 4th outfielder and let Owens get some ab's in aaa, assuming BA wins the CF job.