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QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 06:37 PM) My point is Damaso can at least come in and POSSIBLY k a tough LH in a pressure situation. What Can Viz do again? We have Jenks, Hermanson, Cotts, and Politte who are much better and I mean MUCH better at getting lefties out then Damaso so why would we use him as a lefty specialist that's my point. I never said I don't think he should be on the playoff roster, I just hate how he's going to be used, he's not a lefty specialist.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 06:34 PM) He has a much higher era, more walks, less SO's and more Hr's vs Rh's First off, era for a reliever against one side is probably the most pointless thing ever. he gets righties out for then lefties as they hit way worse against him and get on base. Secondly, you're right he does have more walks against right handers but for about two months now when he comes into face a lefty he walks or hits that batter and basically everyone here could tell you that.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 06:25 PM) 32 K's in only 23 innings cannot be overlooked. Plus, Oz leaves him in there too long. He should only come in to face 1 or 2 lefties, and NO Rh's in crucial situations. I also think Cotts should be 1st choice, IF available........ But you do need 2 LH's to force the opposing manager to make moves. Who gives a crap about k's so he can strike them out when he rarely gets them out, problem is he can't get them out. A .387 obp for a lefty specialist..are you kidding me??? Damaso is much better against right handers because he can actually throw strikes to them. Also, needing two left handers to force the opposing manager to make moves is just crap in my mind.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) We need 2 LH's out of the pen. Period.......BTW, vs LH's, Marte has a 2.35 era in 23 innings w/ 32 So's and giving up ONLY 1 Hr. Lefties are hitting .261 with a .387 obp against Damaso, that is absolutely horrid. He can not get left handers out.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) We need 2 LH's out of the pen. Period. Why is that again?? I know Damaso is going to make the postseason roster, I just hate the fact it's because he throws with his left hand.

QUOTE(Brian @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:47 PM) USC seemed down and out at halftime. Helluva turn around after halftime, I would say...again. They dont try in the first half.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:48 PM) My point is, would you rather face Boston's offense or the Angels pitching. I definitely understand what you're saying cy, I'm just saying basically what Brian said, all these teams in the al playoffs are damn good and we're going to have to earn our way no matter what.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:42 PM) If you ask me, it's pick your poison. Would you rather face Damon/Ortiz/Ramirez/Varitek? Or Colon/Guerrero/Lackey/ Rodriguez?....... If you ask me, I think were better off facing Boston w/ homefield advantage. But if our offense doesn't show up, were screwed. Where if we face the Angels, and our pitching doesn't show up, were screwed. Flip a coin. It's pick your poison with any al playoff team, that's why they're in the playoffs.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) Marte needs to be our situational LH NO, Marte can't get a damn lefty out to save his life, in no way, shape or form should he come in to get left handed hitters out, I don't give a damn if he throws with his left hand or not.

QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) I know it's not official yet, but today's events make it very likely that we'll play the Bosox in round 1. That is the one team I wanted no part of. I realize their pitching is weaker than NY or the Angels, but Ortiz and Manny send a shiver up my spine. Plus they are the defending champs. I certainly wasn't rooting against the White Sox this weekend, but I was sort of hoping they would lay down for the Tribe. I like our matchup against LA much better. Now the Tribe will have to win 2 straight and Boston will have to lose 2 straight for that to happen. I still think we can beat Boston, I just like our chances better against the Angels. Everyone has their own opinions on who they'd like to play, the fact is it's ridiculous for a team to lay down so they can basically choose their opponent, the sox would never ever do that. If the Sox play like they can they'll beat anyone.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 05:30 PM) We should've ridden out Heads' hot hand. Let him get a day off. Once the playoffs start he starts every game thread, period.

QUOTE(Soxfest @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) In Florida game in endzone he landed wrong his ankle snapped wrong way, dam looked sick That was one of the sickest things I've ever seen.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 03:07 PM) That's it .. I am tired of the Vizcaino fan club. Time to rip thru his numbers. What part of a 3.84 ERA over 68 IP impresses you? What part of a .278 BAA & a 1.50 WHIP impresses you? What part of 6W, 5L, & only 8H over 68 appearances impresses you? It's a 4 team season now so let's look at how he stacks up against the rest: v BOS: .320OBP .513SLG .833OPS 1L vs v LAA: .380OBP .489SLG .869OPS vs Now I don't know if it's dawned on you yet but these are our likely opponents on a road to the WS. That doesn't inspire confidence for a White Sox fan. Marte is a no-brainer. You can't go to battle with just 1 LH RP. You must have at least 2. But with the success of Hermy, Politte, Jenks, Vizcaino is NOT needed. Having El Duque & BMac on the roster for emergency long relief & starts is the wise move. What vizcaino fan club?? I don't think Viz is the best pitcher in the world but he's sure as hell better then the Duke at this point and that's a no brainer.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) He isn't Vizcaino. He's much worse.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 02:26 PM) With the win, There will be games on Tuesday and Wednesday at the Cell. Yes sir.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 02:23 PM) I just saw a White Sox [i LiVe FOR THiS] playoff commercial! Yes sir In case I didn't tell you guys enough yesterday, I can not f***in wait till Tuesday.

From a selfish stand point that means no 3 way tie, meaning the games are still on tuesday and wedsneday so my thursday train ticket back to school is still ok.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 02:05 PM) Can we actually convert a save against Cleveland for once? Jenks is probably going to be gased as all hell. So wouldn't surprise me if he blows it. If he pitches tomorrow I will not be happy, I will in fact be pissed off.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 02:03 PM) I wouldn't be adverse to going into next year with Jenks and Hermanson as our closers. That's what I WANT to go into the season with, I just want lefty long reliever who could be used to get lefties out as well.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) They can pitch tomorrow... they do have an off day before we play our series. Ya, it'd be nice though to give everyone important tomorrow off and go from there. Hell..just let viz and damaso pitch tomorrow again.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) In the offseason we need to get a lefty who can get lefties out. We got one, another wouldn't hurt though.

It's unbelievable how bad Damaso has become.

Good boy Damaso. Even though this game means nothing I really want to win it now.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) No, NY would only take the AL East if Cleveland loses tomorrow in addition to today, with Boston getting the WC. -- A win today guaranteed them nothing worse than a playoff. Even with a loss today, Cleveland is only 1 game out of a WC, and if they were to win tomorrow. ---- Anouncers are convinced it's Buehrle/Garcia in game 1-2... I love having the ace in the hole. Actually, a win for the yanks and a loss for the Indians and they do clinch the east as they hold the tie breaker over Boston.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 1, 2005 -> 01:12 PM) Damn. I don't want Boston in the first round. Honest question: Would you rather play the Angels?? To be honest, it does not matter to me either way, just want to hear your views.