Rowand44

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:35 AM) The other interesting thing about this year is that the teams that have been the sellers recently, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Detroit and to a lesser extent Baltimore, Toronto and Cleveland, are all closer to contending this year or down the road with the prospects they've received. So no one knows if they are going to trade players or keep them. Mark Redman is a great example. I would love to get this guy. He has finally learned how to pitch, but do the Pirates want to lose him. They have the makings of a pretty good rotation with him, Wells, Van Bent...Bento...you know the guy. And a good nucleus with Jason Bay, Craig Wilson, Jack Wilson and Mackowiak. I know Kenny likes to make a big splash early, but it makes me nervous because teams are probably going to wait longer which means it will take more to pry a player away. The easiest teams to pry someone away from would be KC, Colorado and Tampa Bay...but are there any players on Colorado or TB that we would want? Mark Redman is a perfect example of prospering from the national league. He's a very good pitcher in the nl and an average pitcher in the al.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) The count pitched better last night, but lets not go overboard here before we declare him ready for the 2nd half. This guys MO for years has been he looks great against crappy teams, then craps the bed against good teams. He will face the RedSox this month. Lets see what he does against them. I still am not comfortable with him starting any playoff games. I've said before I'm perfectly fine with him being the 4th starter and he's a pretty damn good 4th starter but I wouldn't want him being a playoff starter either.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:20 AM) He's very very pretty. I am extremely jealous. Carl Everett isn't going to like this

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) Contreras wasn't THAT good last night. He left a lot of pitches over the plate that the Rays failed to do things with. A better team would have parked 2-3 more balls. His command was mildly better but it was a shaky performance. Maybe, but lets not forget that the drays aren't a bad hitting club. Anyways, because of Jose's stuff when he's throwing fastballs and getting ahead in the count he can get away with plenty of mistakes.

QUOTE(Hideaway Lights @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) Hey Rowand44, if you didn't have Frank labeled as "the power" and Pods labeled as "the speed" in your signature picture, I honestly would have no idea which was which I know that's why I had deploder do that. I figured people would have trouble knowing which was which

QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:12 AM) I never said it was a good or bad idea. I know, I wasn't directing that comment at you, just putting across my opinion. I'll guarantee you though that he's not traded, how 'bout that.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:13 AM) Who on this team is not signed for 2006? Garland, but he goes through Arbitration Konerko AJ Anyone else? EDIT: I am also in the "Don't get a elite starting pitcher unless the price is dirt cheap" camp AJ is arbitration eligible as well. Carl and Frank have options that won't be picked up though Frank will most likely get a reworked contract. Politte has a option that will be picked up. Shingo's a free agent and that would be it my friend.

Queen, I see Greasy and I did a great job of answering your question. Greasy, are you sure it was '74 I thought I heard '75.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:01 AM) Guardado was part of some great "chemistry" teams when he was with Minnesota. I really would be surprised if he became a cancer. Make him the closer and have Hermanson , Politte , Marte and Cotts handle the 7th and 8th. When Buerhle, Garland and Garcia start you would have to love the White Sox chances. You would have to love the Sox chances at least half of Contreras' and El Duque's starts. If another starter were also acquired..........Was it mentioned what it would take to acquire Guardado? Hermy is the closer and that's his job until he loses it.

Is it possible at this point for Scotty to have a better life??

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:04 AM) When was the last time the White Sox had 4 all-stars? It might have already been answered, so if it was...sorry! 75

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) Since June 1st we have 9 losses in 31 games. 3 of those we have scored 4+ runs. In 2 out of our 22 wins we scored less than 4. So only 8 out of the last 31 games we have scored less than 4 runs. Our 22 wins have gone like this starting with last night.... 7,6,10,5,6,4,2,12,5,5,11,4,5,6,12,8,4,15,2,9,6,6 Overall we score 4.84 runs per game, but since June we are averaging 5.58 runs per game. The best team is Boston at 5.58 and Baltimore is 2nd at 4.97. If we can keep hitting and scoring like this we will be at the top in runs as well as ERA. That spells good news for the most important stat............W's. Welcome back Frank!!!!! Frank, the end.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 06:59 AM) Interesting that the players and coaches voted him #2. I tend to believe the player votes more than the fan votes. It is impossible to compare player contracts. When Lee signed his, he wasn't an All-Star. Do you think if he was negotiating today he would have the same contract? Plus each contract goes through stages where players are under paid then over paid. It is rare when a contract exactly matches what a player is "worth". The players do the same thing as the fans, look at names more then what they're actually doing that season, as evident by pudge rodriguez. Anyways, we've been over this, Pauly made the team because first base is such a weak position this year in the al.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 08:37 AM) Cotts pitched two night in a row. AZ scouting, good trade bait for a starter. Not trying to start anything so please everyone calm down. He's young, pitching well, and the Sox are looking for a starter and AZ looking for bullpen help. Trading Neal is a terrible idea. He's not going anywhere.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) Right...come on-its not like it was Tommy-john or anything. He is throwing the ball fine in his rehab, and is gaining velocity. You dont think he has the ability to close games? All it takes it two fastballs and a splitter. It's a different mind set, it's a different position, you just can't be certain about it either way.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 08:31 AM) Very true. He's getting roughed up at Pawtucket. Pssh, you can't get Ross Gload out. But yeah, even if Schilling becomes John Smoltz which is far from a guarantee they have 2 reliable guys then in him and Timlin but nothing else. We have so much depth in the pen right now it's nuts.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 08:41 AM) Astros have won 4 straight, Cubs have lost 6 straight, which means Houston is now in second in the Central and 5.5 out of the wild card, with 4 NL East teams ahead of them. W L Pct GB Atlanta 47 37 .560 - Florida 43 39 .524 3 Philadelphia 43 42 .506 4.5 NY Mets 42 42 .500 5 Houston 41 42 .494 5.5 The Astros are coming, it's hard to count those guys out with the top 3 in their rotation.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:02 AM) Plus his first name rocks. :puke

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:40 AM) No doubt about it. I'm talking about power arm of course. Lummy has an outstanding fastball with some good movement on it. Gio has the better curve, but I have more questions about Gio than most. Of course they are mainly because of potential durability problems, but I also think he needs to be careful that he doesn't rely too much on the curve because at the major league level hitters won't chase his curve and he'll have to be able to spot his fb and change (which I've heard are pretty good at times). The thing that kills me about Lummy is he's barely been healthy since joining the org. This is just my random opinions. I also happen to think Sean Tracey has the best arm in the org this side of Bobby Jenks (in terms of minor league prospects). Thanks. I'm interested to see what Lumsden can do when he gets back. Hopefully when he gets back he can stay healthy.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:33 AM) 04 was a good draft. Only pick I hated and still hate was the Whisler pick. I've seen him pitch and he has the ability to throw a lot of pitches and he's got a good arm, but I just don't see any one real good pitch nor does he have the command. Of course he's in the lower levels for a reason and everyone knew he was raw. I know the Sox like his potential a lot and I guess we will see. The guy I probably like the most of that draft class pitching wise is Lumsden. He's got the best left handed arm in the system when healthy. Looking forward to a week or two from now when he rejoins the bullpen and eventually a rotation. I have not seen Tyler pitch but he has a better arm then Gio??

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:31 AM) I guess you could say that. But he said Jenks used a Change up which he doesn't have. Don't correct me b****! I'll correct you if I want ass But you're right he doesn't throw a change.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) Probably because he has no offspeed stuff. He's a flamethrower. 1.) 97+ Fastball with movement 2.) 12-6 hard 85 MPH Curve - out pitch 3.) Hard sinker that he learned this year and bearly pitches Curveball=offspeed pitch.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) Statistics cannot do justice for the contribution that Tadahito Iguchi has made to this team this year. I wish someone had a statistic for how many times that Tads has moved Pods to 3rd with one or no outs in an inning this year. He ALWAYS seems to get the job done. He has been incredible. I also wonder how many ABs he has given up by moving Pods along with a groundball to the rightside. I would be willing to bet he would still be at .300 if you gave him back all of those chances. He always, always, always gets the job done getting scotty over to 3rd. He's been a perfect 2 hitter, I can't even imagine where we'd be this year without him and Scotty, they've been absolutely fantastic at the top of the order.

Happy bday Brandon, eat something god damn it.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 6, 2005 -> 11:23 PM) Gammons is going to report rumors and stuff he hears through the grapevine. That's part of his job. Not all of which are going to pan out. He also mentioned the Nats as pushing hard from Guardado. He could end up there as well as in Chicago. Right. I just won't ever forget when he said the Sox had traded for Ortiz and then it didn't happen. But you're 100 percent right that's his job. I'm not going to bash him for telling rumors he's heard whether they pan out or not.