Rowand44

The third guy you mentioned has some serious potential.

Exactly no matter how much ozzie wants our starting pitchers aren't always going to get through seven. Get one more reliever and the pen should be set. Get to the 8th inning with Marte and Shingo and GAME OVER.

I love the sig. Props to Goldmember.

Fourth :banghead

When he was first traded to florida he was put in the setup role, when braden looper was closing so I'm guessing he wouldn't mind not closing again. I wouldn't mind urbina but I think there are other relievers out there I'd prefer.

I'd also love to get Grimsley. One more reliever.

I'll add on more to what I said. Basically I think the sox need another solid reliever. I have no problem keeping shingo as the closer I'd actually would kind of like it. But the sox definitely need one more reliever and if contreras could do the job in the 7th inning, damaso in the 8th and shingo in the 9th that would be awesome. I really believe contreras would be nice out of the bullpen and if the yanks would pick up his contract I would love for the sox to get him.

I really like the idea. With his splitter and his good fastball I think he'd be electric in the pen. Give coop some time with him and he could really be a solid closer. While I like having shingo close but it would be nice to be able to keep him and damaso as set up men.

Damn, only damaso marte. And since when is damaso closing. That's one bad article.

Koch has never had any movement on his fastball it's always been straight as an arrow. He's actually picked up a little movement on his fastball since he doesn't throw 100 anymore but plain and simple the guy doesn't know how to pitch and always falls behind in the count, so he gets hammered.

No, it's 2-3-2 for the finals. People don't get to excited the lakers will win the next three and win the series.

I like leskanic's arm. I think because they used him in the closers role it messed him up a lot. If the sox could get him for cheap I'd be all for it but only if they could get him for cheap.

NM, I think I understand.

The sig is awesome, but how do I put it in?

Wow thats amazing. Thanks a lot.

Don't forget my carlos bashing. I already said in another thread that I'm eating my crow and enjoying it. Tastes much better in first place. CARLOS

Agreed, that guy was a moron I'm happy reggie sanders is a class act.

. That was awesome, but this should be in the sportsbar.

Leskanic would be a very good pickup. Affeldt would be nice too but kc won't trade him.

Two games in the loss column also. Let me be the first in this thread to congratulate carlos on 27 in a row. When he was going bad I was all over him. I also started a couple threads about trading him, I'm very happy to eat my crow now. WAY TO GO CARLOS

If you wouldn't mind, that'd be great. Thanks a lot.

Exactly, it's not a fantasy list, it's a very reasonable list. But we're young so we know nothing.

Once again money is a huge player in this issue. JR won't just shell out as much money as steinbrennar. I've stated numerous times that I hate it but thats the way it is. You guys keep telling us we're to young to understand but you guys seem to be the ones not looking at the money aspect and you have to when it comes to baseball and especially with the sox and the self imposed budget.

Ok tex. There is a lot of good pitching out there in the offseason. Besides maggs salary you have jose and koch probably coming off the books for 11 million but much of that 11 million is going to other players for pay raises. Add loaiza to the resign list and I believe shoney has an option. So look at it like this if maggs resigns your most likely losing shoney or esty. Ok so now the sox have 3 starting pitchers, then they most likely throw neal in the rotation. Now you have to throw more young kids in the bullpen which your obviously real against. Resigning maggs for 14 mill just isn't smart for this franchise.

We know that but it's not going to change. JR has his budget and is going to have his budget. If the sox had infinite amount of money to spend then go ahead and keep maggs. I love maggs but his numbers don't equal a 14 million dollar a year contract especially when your on a jr type budget. I've also stated I hate the restriction jr puts on kenny but thats the way it is and thats the way it's going to be. It sucks that the sox are on a budget but they are and because of that it just isn't smart to spend 14 million on one player. You win with pitching and there is some damn good fa's this coming offseason. I've said this plenty of times but the offensive core is there.... willie, uribe, frank, carlos, pk, olivo. Add pitching depth with that 14 million instead of paying one player that much.