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I just put a down payment on my house for next year. w00t

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 04:10 PM) The guy is a big game pitcher and a horse. Is he even 26 yet? If Petitte can get $16M for one year, Zambrano will get well over $20M. He could rival A-Rod with the goofiness of his contract. Say what you want but he could be the best pitcher in baseball bar none by the end of this season. That belongs to Santana and will for a while.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 04:08 PM) Score said the deal is for six million (total, not per year). I like it, especially since he was arbitration eligible anyway. Way below market value. Great signing.

QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 03:41 PM) Where there is no way that I can't deny that he is an absolute horse, and ace of most any staff.... I wouldnt want him anywhere close to the Southside. Much along the same lines as Freddy, he puts his stats and himself well before any team achievement. If a CF misplays a ball, I don't want 3 walks and 5 unearned runs to follow just because of lost concentration and frustration over teammates. He's a psycho and a douche bag, but I don't care. The guy is one of the best pitchers in all of baseball and is still young. Like I said, I'd throw billions at him.

Works for me. It'll definitely be interesting to see the numbers on this one.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) If we are to believe anything that is said by the men running the White Sox organization then yes it looks like Floyd will be on the 25 next year, he's not a lock but I'd give him better than even odds that he makes the big club out of spring training. Barring more moves to the pitching staff, Floyd will be in the bullpen to open the season, I'm almost certain.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 02:44 PM) Do you realize that neither Gio nor Floyd have NEVER performed well at a level higher than AA? So what you're saying is that they have both performed well in leagues over AA?

That definitely scared the f*** out of me this morning when I saw it in PHT.

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 07:53 AM) tell me this, why in the world are the SOX considering moving Jon Garland? Because the guy probably has the most trade value out of any of starters and he's an average pitcher.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 02:25 AM) That's good, then we can have a long conversation about anything and I won't get pissed in my head when you use less and fewer and good and well incorrectly, while also being able to say especially without putting an 'x' in there. I don't have many pet peeves, and I really don't let those that do bother me that much...but mainly incorrect pronunciation and adverb/adjective use bugs the hell out of me. I'll quietly smile and listen, but really, I'm pissed and want to correct your grammar SO.FRIGGIN'.BADly Who are you

Hard to believe that such a good explanation of things came from Wite.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:46 AM) Not really. The HR rate was pretty consistent throughout the season. His control kept getting worse though. The HR rate was largely attributed to park though. He allowed 10 more HR at home (reading is a good hitters park)... 16.3% of his FB went for HR at home compared to 10.8% on the road, with 63% of his IP coming at home. We'll see if he can hack a small park at AAA too, it'll be a good guide for USCF. Gotcha. I haven't looked through his splits from last season, I was just throwing that out there as a possibility.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:34 AM) So Dayn Perry likes the deal. Should we be worried? I guess the new, bloated version of Dayn Perry has a new perspective on Kenny Williams moves.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) If he is able to cut his BB and HR rates at AAA, he returns to elite prospect status, and is penciled into the '08 rotation. Those two might go hand in hand, meaning with his shaky control from last season he might have been falling behind more hitters and then served one up. Hopefully he cuts down on the control problems next season.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:28 AM) Hence why bringing in a lefty reliever should be a priority right now. No way do I want to start Gio's arbitration clock this season (unless he dominates and deserves a callup later on). I think Boone is going to win that spot and I honestly don't have a problem with that. Like I said in the trade thread, I think our pen for next season is going to be: Bobby, Matt, MacD, Aaaaaaaaardsma, Boone and Floyd. Might not be the humungous upgrade everyone expected but it sure has a lot of upside and 3 guys we can for sure count on.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:19 AM) I don't think there's anyway the Cubs allow Carlos Zambrano to hit the open market, though it would definately be best for him if he did. Imagine the killing he could make in free agency. If he ever hit free agency, he's a player I'd want the Sox to throw billions of dollars at.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:20 AM) If Gio starts the year in AA B-Ham he'll dominate. Repeating the level and moving to a really good pitchers park are 2 factors for that. But it's conceiveable the Sox could start him at Charlotte if they want to move him quickly. I'd let him start at B-Ham and build up some momentum 1st though. Ya, that's the question I asked in the trade thread: If Gio would start in Birmingham or Charlotte as I truely don't know, I guess we'll find out soon. To me now, Gio is by far and away our number 1 spect just because of his upside and because he's a pitcher.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:05 AM) Gio Gonzalez a mid level prospect. Ha. He'd almost be the Sox's #1 prospect right now. He IS our number 1 prospect imo. And this coming from someone who isn't exactly super high on the guy. Gio, Sweeney, Broadway, Fields in that order, imho.

QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 08:09 PM) A-Rod if moved will be on his 4th team. Do you think the Seattle fans miss him? How about Texas? I will bet that IF moved New York will help pack his bags. Correct me if I am wrong (And I could be), but didnt thos players you listed win Championships? You're honestly using championships in baseball to show how good a player is? No offense, but that's ridiculous. He's an offensive player, he can only do so much.

QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 08:02 PM) In all honesty if Juan Uribe had A-Rods numbers in the postseason he would have a great reputation. -BUT- A-Rod makes a lot of money and is supposed to be a franchise player. He is supposed to be one of the best players of all time and he hasn't put up outstanding numbers in the playoffs like he should. Once again If A-Rod is so great and perfect - Why are the Yankees shopping him. I am not trying to be an ass, but I have my own opinions. Well Wayne Gretzky was traded, Babe Ruth was sold, Wilt Chamberlain was traded. No offense but the "why are they shopping him?" excuse is a bit ridiculous.

QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 07:52 PM) Are you calling A-Rod a good playoff player? He certainly hasn't been bad.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 07:42 PM) Wow, people really are that bored. Arguing on a message board is much more fun than studying for finals.

QUOTE(Soxman72 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 06:32 PM) When has Jeter called out a teammate? Jeter is the ultimate professional and he leads by example. In this big circus that is the Yankee clubhouse how many times do you hear negative news about Jeter I agree, like that time Jeter moved over from short to 3rd to make room for a better defensive shortstop.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 02:25 AM) A thought just entered my mind. Is there any chance in hell that the Sox use that $10M in available payroll to take a run at Pettitte or Clemens for one year? I highly doubt it sir.

I'd recommend watching the press conference if you guys haven't yet. The beginning and end especially are rather entertaining.