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Everyone loves to work for JR. He is very loyal and keeps people around forever. It's good job security to work for him.

That's the Boras MO though. I don't think it has anything to do with the teams. It more Boras dragging it out.

I believe your excuse was that they wanted to evaluate Fields for one more year and had such limited draft capital that they deemed that more valuable. I remember reading the somewhere right before the draft, in the Athletic, I think.

For bragging right when im at EAA-Oshkosh this summer it means everything.

Yep, as usual Boras lives the power of controlling the off season and making teams squirm. Hopefully, teams get tired of that first and move on to Cease.

The cotton candy ones are great if you freeze them and use them as summer snacks.

If they think one of them is that franchise QB, then fine. But I was also talking about drafts over the next couple of years. I can't say I have any valid opinion on them.

Agreed. The only caveat, is that QB in this draft? If they think he is, they need to take him. If not, trade down and compile draft capital to trade up in later drafts to find one.

He's entitled to his opinion. He can laugh all he wants. I try not to laugh at others just try to educate. Still doesn't change the fact that nothing is 100% guaranteed or that there 0% change of anything happening. Pressures from other teams or superiors change all the dynamics.

OK. If you said that, I would just say I disagree that's it's a given. It probable but until we see the final package, I'm not going to give it a zero chance. All it takes is one desperate GM. As someone said earlier"teams never learn. "

I never put words in your mouth (ick) only responding to what you say. You said that negotiating goes. Team one goes high, team 2 goes low (which we had to discuss to get you to say) then they meet in the middle. Your scenario totally neglects the possibility of pressure from one or more other teams involved and changing the entire dynamic. This is not my putting words in your mouth it's correcting your flawed logic and scenario.

You are starting to grasp the basics of negotiating. Now let's take the next step. It could go this way but it could also change where other pitchers are taken off the market and a team gets desperate and either meets or comes much closer to the original demands than they wanted to. This is why the team trading the player waits. Niw it could backfire and the team offering the best prospects pivots and acquires a different player. Now the the reading has lost leverage and gets a lesser deal. Any of these scenarios are possible. It is not a static process.

Again, that was early on in the negotiations. I wouldn't expect anyone to pay that kind of premium either. That was the starting point, not the end.

Agreed. As much as fans or media think they know about the players or inner working of the teams, they don't. There are too many things going on that aren't public.

No kidding.

That's fine. However you are assuming that the negotiations are over by saying no GM is going to pay this price. This is an unknown. Someone may pay that price. The negotiations aren't over. What the Orioles aren't going to get is a good not great dependable starting pitcher for the next 2 years and at an affordable price. None of your other options will be the same. It's fine not to pay the price but to say no one will pay it is just not correct. I might be but it could also be that 2 teams are in a bidding war and it will be a high price.

Cease is not the only option but he is the best cost controlled option. If you want to settle for clevinger and his price tag or pay nearly as much for a single year of the others that's your perogative but you will need to go through the same process next year and give up more prospects because the Orioles are not signing long term FA just like the Sox.

This goes back to the negotiating discussion. He should start out absurd and then work his way down. Just like the opposing GM should start with a low ball offer and work his way up. The entire goal for Getz is to get as much as possible and the entire goal for the opposing GM is to give up as little as possible. I don't know why most of the Baltimore fans think the beginning or middle of negotiations is a static offer.

Most QBs at the NFL level can win with the right pieces around. The key is finding one that can win without them because injuries and salary cap casualties happen.

Very much so. Which is a useful player but not a top tier piece in a trade for a dependable starting pitcher.

Yeah, I think I would take quality over quantity even though all prospects are a crapshoot. Even looking at the Sale trade, the 2 "quality" prospects at least had some MLB use.

The difference is so small, it isn't worth discussing so we'll only spend 100 pages talking about it. ?

Nice!

No substance but much entertainment.

Since the post was 24 minutes ago, things change. Negotiating changes.