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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 03:38 PM) White Sox equivalent is about Yolmer Sanchez, Carson Fulmer, and Nicky Delmonico. For Stanton AND Gordon? That's not a bad price. But Stanton's contract is terrible for the White Sox timeline.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) I don't think the Sox should trade for Stanton, but has any of this shored up OF played a MLB game yet? "Of the future" implies that those players are not on the MLB roster. That said, which group makes you more comfortable moving forward: A. Garcia L. Garcia Cordell Delmonico Tilson Engel Jimenez Polo Fisher Call Rutherford Robert OR Sanchez Burger

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 02:23 PM) Sox have been shafted by CBA picks for ages now. No other sport grants certain teams extra draft picks and pool money every year like mlb does, regardless of record. Every other sport has a cap, as well.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:36 PM) I dunno if it counts, but I feel like Sanchez has a better chance of filling the 3b spot until Berger is ready than Engel does of filling the CF spot. Maybe Leury takes over that spot out in CF, but that's my favorite weak spot right now. Luis Robert projects to the CF spot, so I like the future there much better than at 3B with Burger. I see Leury as the stopgap to Robert.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:23 PM) Who is Hulk? Da bessss, aka Eloy Jimenez.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) Mark Bowman‏Verified account @mlbbowman 6m6 minutes ago MLB will likely announce the findings of its Braves investigation within the next two days. Penalties could include fines, international market restrictions and the loss of international prospects (Maitan remains a strong possibility). Maitan is the biggest name, but they also signed a catcher, Abraham Gutierrez, for ~$3.5 million. Is he someone who, if released, would be worth bringing in?

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:06 PM) There's an interesting team at #1 here... ESPN: Finding the best spot for Giancarlo Stanton Stanton makes zero sense for the White Sox. Their OF of the future is pretty shored up. It's 3B that poses the biggest long term concern (enter Manny Machado next offseason).

QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) This may have already been discussed, but would the Braves be able to potentially re-sign him? If their punishment goes like Boston's, they'll be out of the international market for at least a year once their prospects are released. That means no Maitan, no Otani, no anyone for at least the rest of this signing period. If the offense is severe enough, maybe even the next as well.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 20, 2017 -> 08:37 AM) Pretty sure Maitan is going to take the highest bid (or near highest) which won’t be us. I’m pretty confident that we have at least $300k remaining if we want to throw a Hail Mary type offer though. If his deal is the same as the Red Sox prospects, every team will be allowed to offer him their entire pool. With the Red Sox guys, the first $300K (the amount of their original reported bonus) didn't count toward the new team's bonus pool. In Maitan's case, that would be the first $4.25 million, so Texas, for example, could offer him almost $8 million if he's granted the same status as the Red Sox prospects.

By my count, 3 Republican Senators have come out as opposing the tax reform bill (Johnson, Murkowski, Collins). Hopefully this works out like ACA repeal.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Nov 19, 2017 -> 01:43 PM) You do that Rick Hahn is the ONLY GM to display literally 0 interest His quotes to the media on the subject give a different impression.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 19, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) Cool, I look forward to his 32-34 starts and 230-250 innings a season for the next 15 years. I sure hope he's good and healthy enough to average over 7 innings per start.

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Nov 19, 2017 -> 11:33 AM) I love seeing pitchers work their legs and core. Keep the arm loose, but get that lower half strong. Clemens and Juan Guzman come to mind. Exactly. It's not about "getting jacked", it's about working the right muscles to improve your effectiveness at your craft. The video is a great example of that, he's strength training his core and legs, which he needs strong for his velocity, rather than his arms, which need to be more flexible.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Nov 19, 2017 -> 09:21 AM) Otani isn't coming here, there's 0.00000% chance This has been discussed ad nauseam on the Otani thread, but I'm going to continue to believe in the possibility of him coming to the White Sox until he's signed somewhere, at which point it's either celebrate or move on.

My ridiculously optimistic scenario: 1) Leury Garcia CF 2) Yoan Moncada 2B 3) Manny Machado 3B 4) Jose Abreu 1B 5) Eloy Jimenez RF 6) Shohei Otani DH 7) Zack Collins C 8) Nicky Delmonico LF 9) Tim Anderson SS Bench: IF Yolmer Sanchez, C Omar Narvaez, OF Ryan Cordell 1B/DH Casey Gillaspie 1) Carlos Rodon L 2) Shohei Otani R 3) Michael Kopech R 4) Lucas Giolito R 5) Reynaldo Lopez R CL Craig Kimbrel SU Carson Fulmer SU Thyago Vieira MR Zack Burdi MR Brian Clark MR Dane Dunning MR Spencer Adams MR Jace Fry/Aaron Bummer Top org prospects: 1) CF Luis Robert 2) SP Alec Hansen 3) SS Nick Madrigal 4) LF Blake Rutherford 5) SP Dylan Cease

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 09:01 PM) The men part of that graphic is sad.

This is an excellent trade for reasons already mentioned. They can only offer Otani $300K, so trade the rest of it away to teams looking for an advantage in that race and hope that the money isn't a big factor for him as has been reported (and proven by the fact that he's not waiting two years for a 9 figure payday).

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) This isn’t true. Otani made seven starts, and there were a minimum ten teams represented at all of them. The broadcast would pan up to the scout seats practically every time he touched 98+ Then journalists need to get their facts right. The article I read said he made one pitching appearance all year and got touched up for 4 runs in 1.1 innings.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) Alright this is mostly just bulls***, but let’s say this is his team selection process: 1. Wants to hit most days when he’s not pitching (DH required) => eliminates 15 NL teams 2. Wants to join non-established or rebuilding team => eliminates HOU, NYY, BOS, CLE, MIN, KC, BAL, LAA, TEX 3. Prefers large city with respectable Japanese population => eliminates TOR, TB, DET 4. Prefers organization with both stability & upside => eliminates OAK 5. Prefers club without expansive history of Japanese players => eliminates SEA Theoretically that leaves us as the winner if money truly doesn’t matter! I like this and hope it is the logic he follows in his decision making process.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 07:09 PM) There is a quote from Hahn at the end. Certainly doesn't sound like a guy not interested, but probably realistic about his chances. There is a lot to sell if he is trying to make his own mark and RH and JR are contract geniuses. I am sure if he will listen they will talk to him, http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/11/14/sho...te-sox-pursuit/ Hopefully they make an all-out organization wide effort to sign him. The White Sox are the exact type of team he was described as looking for, and if he pans out, it accelerates the rebuild and extends the contention window that much more.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 06:38 PM) But he also said that if you think De Sedas can stay at SS, which the White Sox probably do because they have taken several guys with defensive questions, then he is the best of the three. Highest risk, highest potential. I'd prefer to get a more sure thing with a slightly lower ceiling, especially if the floor is much higher with less difference in ceiling.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 06:13 PM) http://m.mlb.com/news/article/261950410/wh...ctive-to-teams/ Goes on to list teams that could be a potential fit for an Avi trade. Anyone care to speculate what trade packages from those teams (Diamondbacks, Giants, Blue Jays, Orioles, Mariners, Rockies, Rangers) would look like?

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) Apologies for formatting here Chuck Garfien‏Verified account @ChuckGarfien 3m3 minutes ago More Aaron Rowand spent last week working with Luis Robert in the Dominican Republic. He RAVES about him. Sox fans will love this. Rowand on the White Sox Talk Podcast later this afternoon. Is Rowand getting involved with the org somehow? I think that would be a good thing, always saw him as an underrated quality player. He seemed to know the fundamentals of the game very well.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) Longenhagen had another chat mentioning the 2018 draft. Asked to comp the shortstops in this class he compared it too the 2015 draft. Here's what he had to say: If he's giving Madrigal a Bregman comp, all the more reason to take him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 05:46 PM) I hope we trade Avi to San Diego and are done with all the Avi talk regarding trades. He's one of my favorites and at least trading him to San Diego would make me forget about him. Let's face it. Sox are in a no win with Avi. Keep him and he does well and the money people will say, "Oh no. We can't afford him (as we save Jerry penny after penny)." Keep him and he reverts back, "See we should have traded high on Avi." I fully expect us to deal him at winter meetings or in that time frame. We'll probably get one good prospect, two fringe guys from somebody. I'd keep him and sign him to a nice deal but not earth shattering but like I said it'd be nice to not hear about trading Avi any more and if that means trading Avi, please do so. That's it! Trade him for Tatis Jr.! This board would explode, I think.