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QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 11:07 PM) Yeah, I was just checking in to witness the outrage over Webb being used in a meaningless game, but his name wasn't even mentioned. So, when he's truly needed in a couple days from now, Ventura will rest him. No s***. Ventura is f***ing clueless. Webb comes out throwing 96, this is our "long man". Meanwhile he won't just let leesman eat it, he's gotta go to the pen early. Dude has no fugging clue when you call it a day and when you fight, none, zip, zero, zilch.

I can't f***ing believe Robin let him go 127 in a meaningless game. f***ing firable offfense.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 09:47 PM) Whatever, I hate set 'pens anyway Players like them, which is why managers usually do it. Robin apparently wants to go his own way, and he has such a illustrious managing career who can blame him...

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) Does Webb still need rest or will he close?? Robin likes to think Webb is his long guy when in reality he's one of our better relievers.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 09:26 PM) Ya Avi getting hurt might have saved Dayan's career. Hopefully it's not just a hot stretch and he's starting to learn some things up there. It's a cliche, but injuries really held him back the last couple years. For a guy that was raw as f*** a wrist problem and oblique are not good. They aren't good for anyone but a young toolsy guy without much to fall back on needs to get into a ryhthm and get a lot of PA, for Dayan he's probably about a year behind where he should be because of injuries. Garcia is young and advanced compared to Viciedo so his injury (in theory, and I hope) shouldn't set him back that much, obviously not good to miss nearly a full year, but he should bounce back.

what's gotten into viciedo, he looks like the top 100 prospect guy again.

what part of robin's brain thinks it's a good idea to give semian and danks the most PA in the game? I am pretty much convinced that the next good sox team won't be managed by Robin.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 06:58 PM) The end result was good so therefore it was good. Rather be lucky then good as the saying goes. I'll take that from Johnson. Control is still a problem but at least he has confidence in his breaking stuff where he can challenge guys with it. He won't get this lucky everytime but at least give the team a chance to win. He batlled, which isn't going to turn him into a 3.00 FIP ace, but if he can battle everytime out he'll be a solid 4th starter and the Sox will take that.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 05:18 PM) MLB network guys criticized Robin but you are right too. We need a bullpen that can throw strikes. We had like 11 walks? Ridiculous Matt Thornton was a real luxury to have around as a LHP that could dominate righties. Sox could really use a guy like that. You got a dominant LHP that strikes out Ortiz then breezes through the righties makes Robin look pretty smart, I'll give him that.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 05:01 PM) The general consensus has always been 1000 AB's unless a guy is clearly overwhelmed, which Semien isn't. I would just roll with Semian everyday at this point and trade Gordon for a bag of balls. No team is going to look at Gordon Beckham's 2400+ PA in MLB with a OPS+ of 85 and think a month or two hot streak is who he really is. What, we're going to inflate his value from a C- prospect to a C+ one?

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) Hahaha, nice work. I don't get it. By that graph Lindstrom is twice as reliable as Cleto. Anything else is irrelevant. It's pretty easy and I was putting Robin on blast way before the Sawx tied the game up over at SSS. 1st, you could stick with Downs for more than one better. 2nd, you could not waste Veal in that inning. 3rd, you go to the guy you've designated as your closer in the 9th. 4th, you bring in Webb before extras, instead of Petricka. It's pathetic that Webb and Lindstrom didn't come on until it was too late. By any sane logic (Webb has looked good this year, Lindstrom has a decent track record in his career) those two guys are 2 of your 3 best relievers and they should be pitching in high leverage situations. Robin f***ed it up. The bullpen sucks; Robin sucks at managing bullpens -- those things can both be true, it's not an either or situation. Robin is an awful in game manager IMO and a few other people here are with me, it's not an outlandish position given what we've seen over the past 2+ years out of him. He just doesn't do a good job putting players in positions to succeed, especially out of the bullpen.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 01:32 PM) To actually be serious, I think that Dunn has left a bad taste in the mouth of Sox fans and wiping themselves clean from him would be best for both parties. If they brought him back at $2-3 mill on a 1 year deal to be one half of a RHP DH platoon, I wouldn't complain, but I don't know if Dunn wants that at this point in his career. I think he might retire. He's made his money and he doesn't seem like a guy that wants to push his body well into his mid and late 30s. Not that he doesn't take care of himself but he has had some injuries in the past that could turn into chronic problems in middle age if he continues to push himself.

If Robin is judging the effectiveness of his relievers by ERA, blown saves, saves and SSS then he can just defer the entire thing to Cooper. Robin is in some wierd place with his bullpen, he refuses to go "by the book" in odd circumstances (like bringing Cleto in instead of the guy he designated as his closer) and other times he goes so by the book with platoon matchups that he burns through 4 relievers in one inning. It's like he's stuck in the middle and frankly he's not La Russa or even Ozzie level with his gut. His gut sucks and is wrong. I'd vastly prefer is he just went by the damn book. Make Webb the setup man and Lindstrom is your closer. Boom, bullpen will still suck, but at least it will suck with defined roles.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 17, 2014 -> 04:55 PM) If he had managed that game like it was going to be a 14 inning game, it would have surely been over in 9. You nailed it. He f***ed it up plain and simple. I disagreed with bringing in Downs, then I disagreed with the quick hook, but that stuff ok whatever. Letting Cleto start the 9th however is unacceptable with a rested Webb and Lindstrom. That he didn't use his best two relievers until runners on in the 9th tells you everything you need to know. The game was blown at that point. Robin is a disaster with his tactics, I just hope his "rah rah" s*** is something special.

QUOTE (beautox @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) His velocity is sitting right where it was last year i've seen 92 consistently and I think i seen 93 once or twice. Oh ok I was under the impression he could get it up to 93-94. Guess he's more of a guy that sits around 90-92, which makes sense given his 3rd/4th starter profile. His breaking stuff is nasty however if he can command those two different breaking balls he has 90-92 is plenty.

Johnson is pitching damn well. Velocity really isn't there but his breaking stuff is nasty.

Johnson's breaking ball looks quite a bit more lively tonight, really breaking sharply down.

what a joke it was OBVIOUS he was safe, replay is a f***ing disgrace.

actually might have caught a break with the cold weather for Johnson's start. He looks quite a bit sharper than last outing. He's locating much better for starters and getting that fastball up past 90 on the regular.

There is no room for Konerko or Garcia on the roster but it is what it is. Semian is probably going to get screwed over and get sent down despite holding his own pretty damn well. They should just tell Kong he's now a coach and have him officially retire, pay him the same amount or anything but it's obvious he's not in the plans and it was a big courtesy by JR to bring him back.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Apr 10, 2014 -> 04:39 PM) Is Viciedo a defensive upgrade in RF? f*** no. Anyone not excited about Garcia is a moron IMO. Guy was projected for over 10 war over the next 4 reasons, and what he showed in a week and a half in 2014 is that that might have been way low. He was breaking out big time and now he just lost a year of his development. If there is any silver ligning it's that it's his non throwing shoulder but that's it. He's not going to be able to pick up a bat or ball for 3-4 months.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 06:06 PM) That's fine, just have to hope for no tears, etc. Yep, it's good the x rays were negative let's hope the MRI comes back clean. If it's "just" a separated shoulder he could be back in a couple weeks depending on the severity. It was his left shoulder correct? That's another small positive.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 05:23 PM) Hahn should be ashamed of this pen he assembled Who cares, a pen is the most easily fixed part of the team. This is a throwaway season as long as the youngsters develop the pen can easily be fixed for 2015 and beyond.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 04:27 PM) What a disaster...if he's out for an extended period, this suddenly becomes a lost year for him and his development. Seperated shoulder actually might be a best case, 4-6 weeks he'll be back. I just hope he didn't tear something.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) Johnson looks like he has no confidence in anything he is doing. Yea I'm not a huge believer in reading the tea leaves of body language but he just seems to not be mentally into the game.