Balta1701

Nothing Garcia does this year changes the logic with him. 1. If Garcia makes it through this year healthy it will be the first time in his career (and another indictment of our training staff). 2. If the White Sox had offered Garcia arbitration, he would have made something like $8-9 million this year. No team was wiling to give him more than $3.5 million as a free agent. No team believed in him that much. He was basically McCann level. 3. If the White Sox had offered him $4 million as a free agent they could have retained him, but signing outfielders to 1 year deals as a free agent is just dumb for this franchise. If Avi was doing great for us right now, what difference does it make, are we competitive for the Wild Card, does he make us a rival for the AL Central? Are corner outfielders hugely valued on the trade market in July? 4. If everything worked out great for that signing, Avi still walks away as a free agent next offseason because no one is offering him a $18 million qualifying offer. You can tell me that signing Avi for $4 million would have been better than signing another outfielder for $4 million and forgetting to give him a physical and that's true, but signing any outfielder for $4 million was a dumb move for a rebuilding franchise that spent the offseason crying about how they're too poor to extend their core roster.

If I read this right he accrued about 41 days of service time last year. If the rules don't change, he'd need to be optioned to the minors and stay there for >50 days, give or take, for it to have an affect on when he hits free agency. So early June, give or take?

Considering I'm a sponsor of this thread apparently you know I'm not a Hahn fan, but nothing Garcia does this year changes the logic with him. 1. If Garcia makes it through this year healthy it will be the first time in his career (and another indictment of our training staff). 2. If the White Sox had offered Garcia arbitration, he would have made something like $8-9 million this year. No team was wiling to give him more than $3.5 million as a free agent. No team believed in him that much. 3. If the White Sox had offered him $4 million as a free agent they could have retained him, but signing outfielders to 1 year deals as a free agent is just dumb for this franchise. If Avi was doing great for us right now, what difference does it make, are we competitive for the Wild Card, does he make us a rival for the AL Central? Are corner outfielders hugely valued on the trade market in July? 4. If everything worked out great for that signing, Avi still walks away as a free agent next offseason because no one is offering him a $18 million qualifying offer. You can tell me that signing Avi for $4 million would have been better than signing another outfielder for $4 million and forgetting to give him a physical and that's true, but signing any outfielder for $4 million was a dumb move for a rebuilding franchise that spent the offseason crying about how they're too poor to extend their core roster.

That...didn't answer my question.

Would the White Sox like Abrams enough to let Adley continue dropping?

A .910 OPS last year would have been one of the 10 best hitters in baseball.

They absolutely deserve the ridicule, but yea I do think that they will let Nate head off into the night this offseason.

I woulda thought that maybe we could consider Rodon a bullpen option in 2021 but our physical trainer poster said after the last injury (shoulder) that the nature of that injury probably made him poorly suited for the bullpen.

From the "They expect him back next season" it sounds like they won't do this, but frankly I wouldn't even waste the roster spot on Rodon this offseason if I were in charge. Even if everything were to work out on time, does anyone want to count on him if they think this team is competitive in 2021? Even if the other starters all work out great you're still going to want a plan B for what you'll do if Rodon gets hurt or struggles that year, and then even if things go well he's instantly a free agent. Same boat as Garcia; even if everything went great, he's a poor fit for the White Sox due to the timing of his free agency.

Yes, they have an option next year on Jones and no reason to expect they would pick that up. They tried enough times.

Isn't he down to like 0-1 minor league options remaining or something remarkably low like that?

I don't think anyone is going to be mad over 2 or 3 sacrifice bunts a year in the AL if that's what the manager thinks gives him the best shot in a handful of games, taking into account the hitters that are on deck, the pitcher, and so forth. But for most teams that's a drop of like 80-90%, and it would never happen early in games.

Rick Renteria in a 4-3 game yesterday?

As of right now, Glasnow is out 4-6 weeks with a forearm strain.

However there's a second part of this story. If your team is down by 1 run and you have a runner on 2nd with no outs - you need 1 run to tie but you need 2 runs to win the game. The bunt narrowly increases your chances of scoring 1 run (with weighting based on who is coming up to hit), but it also substantially drops your chances of scoring 2 runs. So you do slightly increase your chances of tying the game, but you may not make a dent in your overall chances of winning the game because you've hurt your chances at a multi-run rally that inning when you need multiple runs to do that.

If a couple days of rest ends this hot streak, then that's who the hitter was going to be anyway.

A player bunting against the shift a few times per year and stealing 5 hits (Even if your David Ortiz) probably isn't the worst thing either, especially if it forces the defense to stay more honest in their positioning in your average at bats.

Right now we're closer to developing elite starters than to developing a Brewers style elite bullpen, and since our starters ERA is the worst in baseball that's saying something.

Not exactly, especially since Rodon will clearly never be a TOR guy for us. Take a look at the 4-5 starters in Cleveland's rotation, or the top guys in Houston's rotation, 1 elite pitcher is often not enough in this league.

Give me the catcher.

After about what, 60 plate appearances with a much improved K-Rate, people were saying "K-rate is one of the first things to stabilize and this is much improved!". Now he's had just under 60 plate appearances with a much worse K-Rate, so I'll be honest, I have no idea which way this player is going to go this season, but it's definitely disconcerting that he hasn't been able to sustain that vastly improved K-rate.

Justin Morneau was a 1b and his career was completely derailed by concussions. It can't just be the position, although catcher is definitely more exposed, might have to worry about the safety equipment and the rehab/recovery too.

He had 2 K-free games in the first series against Baltimore. Since that series ended, he's played 13 games, had 55 PAs, and his K rate in those games is 34.5%. Obviously I selected the time period where it looks the worst, but still...that's the exact stat you said to watch and it looks bad lately.

back spasms, day to day.