NCsoxfan

This is a 82 win team IMO, don't think it matters whether it's Ozzie or Robin or anyone else

I'm a fan assuming we give up little/nothing

QUOTE (knightni @ May 24, 2016 -> 12:59 PM) 1. He's only a 1B 2. He's old 3. He can't hit for power 4. He's not a MLB player any more - otherwise he'd be on a MLB roster right now. All fair points. Just seemed like he might be an upgrade for Sands.

I know this has been talked about, but why no interest in James Loney? He's hitting 333 for the Padre's AAA team and can opt out of his deal if he finds a ML opportunity. Given Jose's struggles and Sands just being meh, could it make sense?

Dakota Hudson's college ERA is pretty high. I know that's not everything, but surprising to see that on a top-10 pick

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ May 18, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) 10. Chicago White Sox Dakota Hudson, RHP Mississippi State I've heard the White Sox are on big college arms, especially Hudson and Georgia right-hander Robert Tyler. That said, I wonder if they'd roll the dice on Pint, given their willingness to take guys with great stuff but unusual aspects to their deliveries. 26. Chicago White Sox: Gavin Lux, SS, Indian Trail Academy (Kenosha, Wisconsin)

10. Chicago White Sox Dakota Hudson, RHP Mississippi State I've heard the White Sox are on big college arms, especially Hudson and Georgia right-hander Robert Tyler. That said, I wonder if they'd roll the dice on Pint, given their willingness to take guys with great stuff but unusual aspects to their deliveries.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 13, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/moc...jHWOsoEx2OOp.97 Baseball America's newest Mock Draft has White Sox taking HS RHP Ian Anderson. And at 26: White Sox: If the White Sox ended up with a prep arm at No. 10, it’d be hard to imagine them doing the same thing again at 26. We gave them Kent State southpaw Eric Lauer last week, and that seems like a pretty good match. He’s a strike-throwing lefthander with an easy delivery and promising command. If they end up going in another direction with their first pick, Whitley, who has significantly improved his body since last year, could be in play here. PICK: Eric Lauer, lhp Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/moc...jFuqm0MXYFJ7.99

Anyone think we could go with a HS player in round 1?

Here is Keith Law's BigBoard for the draft. They have a free trial available for insider, so figured it's ok to post? (May 18) -- but rather how I'd rank them. Each top 100 draft prospect has a player card with his scouting profile, written by Longenhagen; click on the player's name to go to it. (Some of the profiles in the second half of the top 100 don't have write-ups yet; we'll fill those in soon.) 1. Corey Ray, OF, Louisville Right now, if I had the top pick, I think I'd go with Ray, the best all-around college position player who is at worst a solid everyday left fielder with the upside of a Ray Lankford (whose name I've heard from a couple of scouts over the past year as a comp for Ray). He can hit; he can run; he has some power. Although center field, where he plays part of the time for Louisville, is a pipe dream, he could develop into a capable left fielder. I think he goes among the top three picks. 2. Jason Groome, LHP, Barnegat (New Jersey) HS Reports of Groome's demise from local media in south Jersey are greatly exaggerated; you're still looking at a tall, athletic lefty with a good delivery and a grade-70 (on the 20 to 80 scouting scale) breaking ball. I think Groome goes among the top four picks. 3. Delvin Perez, SS, International Baseball Academy (Puerto Rico) Perez has the best overall package of tools in this class -- he was named the MVP of the Excellence Tournament in Puerto Rico last week, going 12-for-21 in the event and running a 6.23-second 60-yard dash -- and won't turn 18 years old until November, but his hit tool is his least advanced, and as I've noted previously, there are questions about his maturity and work ethic. He could go as low as pick No. 8 (San Diego), depending on how the board falls. 4. Mickey Moniak, OF, La Costa Canyon HS (Carlsbad, California Moniak has improved his standing with scouts this spring by doing everything except hitting for power. He can hit, run and play center, so if he does exceed power expectations, he has the upside of a star. I don't think he'll go No. 1 overall, but I've heard he's on the Phillies' long list of candidates for that pick. 5. A.J. Puk, LHP, Florida Puk returned after missing most of two starts because of back spasms, had two good starts, then walked six batters this past weekend against Tennessee. He could go 1-1, but I think that's a reach considering that his results at Florida have never matched his stuff -- and his stuff isn't so dominant that he should be the first overall pick anyway. That said, he's clearly the best college starting pitcher prospect in the draft, so he won't slide far. 6. Braxton Garrett, LHP, Florence (Alabama) HS Garrett is a very advanced strike-thrower with a plus curveball that he can command and a solid-average fastball that will probably settle in at about a 55 grade. I've heard that the Marlins, who pick seventh, are very high on him, and I don't think he'd get much further than that as a highly polished prep arm with a bit of projection left, too. 7. Blake Rutherford, OF, Chaminade College Prep (West Hills, California) Rutherford is a highly advanced high school hitter. He's definitely headed to a corner-outfield spot and is an older high schooler at age 19, which is probably enough to push him from the top five into the 6-15 range. He has a good track record of hitting, but the swing isn't geared for big power right now. 8. Kyle Lewis, OF, Mercer Lewis could go as high as No. 2 and definitely will go in the top 10 because he's a toolsy college outfielder who should stay in center and already has plus power. He has, however, had contact issues at Mercer and in the Cape summer league. 9. Matt Manning, RHP, Sheldon HS (Sacramento) Son of former NBA player Rich Manning, Matt is a 6-foot-6 right-hander who has been up to 98 mph and shows a hard spike curveball that is good some weeks and inconsistent other weeks. He's so athletic that I'd happily roll the dice on him even though he needs quite a bit of development. 10. Nick Senzel, 3B, Tennessee Senzel is by acclamation the best college hitter in the class, but it's much more about contact than power. While he has improved his defense substantially, he's probably never going to be plus at third (though bear in mind that Nolan Arenado was probably a 45 defender at third when he was in Double-A, if not worse, and is now one of the best defenders in baseball at any position). I've heard him strongly linked to Cincinnati at No. 2, and I don't think he gets past Oakland at No. 6. 11. Nolan Jones, SS, Holy Ghost Prep (Bensalem, Pennsylvania) Jones, a shortstop now, is a big kid who's likely to move directly to third base in pro ball and could end up at first. In terms of hit/power upside, the only negative relative to a guy like Rutherford is the weaker competition he has faced in the Northeast. 12. Joey Wentz, LHP, Shawnee Mission East HS (Prairie Village, Kansas) Wentz didn't even give up a hit until his fourth outing of the year. He touches 96 mph and pitches at solid-average, with an above-average curveball and consistent strikes already. He also has some power as a first baseman, although his future is on the mound. 13. Riley Pint, RHP, St. Thomas Aquinas HS (Overland Park, Kansas) Pint was 96-100 when I saw him, and he has topped that before. He'll also show a good breaking ball one time and a good changeup another, but the concern is that he doesn't throw strikes, and I don't know how you get him to do that when his arm already works so well. He could be Justin Verlander if it all clicks -- or Brad Pennington if it doesn't. I think his market starts at the Rockies' fourth pick; it makes more sense for them to take a kid with Pint's skill set than for any other team to do so. 14. Ian Anderson, RHP, Shenendehowa HS (Clifton Park, New York) Anderson just made his first official start of the year this past Saturday after getting rained out twice and battling pneumonia early in the season. He's probably a top-10 guy on merit, but he'll pitch only a few times in front of scouts before draft meetings begin, and I imagine teams will have a hard time getting enough looks at him this month to feel confident taking him that high. 15. Forrest Whitley, RHP, Alamo Heights HS (San Antonio) Whitley bounced back nicely from a thumb injury that cost him a few starts and a controversial email sent to scouts by his father -- now the stuff of legend, it was about how he wasn't impressed by pro ball and there was no way his son would sign. He has shown clear first-round stuff, including a big fastball and a body that is already well-developed at 6-7 and 250 pounds. 16. Dakota Hudson, RHP, Mississippi State In a year when more college pitchers have seen their draft value head south than improve, Hudson has chugged right along, putting up strong numbers in the SEC with two above-average pitches. I've heard him mentioned as high as pick No. 10 and wouldn't be surprised if someone took him even higher than that given the history of college pitchers in the first round. 17. Bryan Reynolds, OF, Vanderbilt Reynolds is an unexciting pick, and you wish he struck out less often, but he does hit -- and hit for power. You're probably getting at least an everyday player in an outfield corner, which is a clear first-round pick in a draft with so few good college bats. 18. Zack Collins, C, Miami Collins can't catch, but he can hit and has power, so if a team is willing to take a college bat who is almost certain to end up at first base, he's the guy. I've heard he's in the mix for at least two teams in the top 10, including Oakland. 19. Kevin Gowdy, RHP, Santa Barbara (California) HS Gowdy, committed to UCLA, is a fastball/curveball guy with good feel to pitch and a fair amount of physical upside remaining. The Yankees are supposedly heavily on him at pick No. 18, and the Phillies are hoping to get him as an overpay at pick 42. 20. Cody Sedlock, RHP, Illinois A year after the Illini had a top-10 pick in Tyler Jay, they're back with another potential first-round arm in Sedlock, who'll show three above-average pitches but has a delivery that some scouts feel won't hold up as a starter. 21. Cal Quantrill, RHP, Stanford Quantrill had Tommy John surgery last March, hasn't pitched yet this spring and now might not pitch at all before the draft, fueling rumors he already has a deal in place with someone (such as the Padres at No. 24). 22. Alex Kirilloff, OF, Plum HS (Pittsburgh) Kirilloff is yet another corner high school bat, but the hit and power tools here seem pretty well established. He also frequently hits with a wood bat in games, as well as always taking batting practice with wood for scouts, which is particularly helpful for a hitter from a cold-weather area. 23. Jordan Sheffield, RHP, Vanderbilt I still think Sheffield ends up in relief, but he has been good as a starter for Vanderbilt despite his slight build -- showing electric stuff, including a fastball frequently up to 97 mph. 24. Anfernee Grier, OF, Auburn Grier is a poor man's Kyle Lewis (No. 8 above), a toolsy, athletic college outfielder who has performed well (.390/.470/.590 this year, .346/.407/.458 in SEC play) but strikes out too often, and scouts have noted Grier's trouble with breaking stuff. He might be a sandwich- or second-round guy in a normal draft class, but the paucity of good college bats puts him in the 20s this year. 25. Will Benson, OF, The Westminster Schools (Atlanta) Benson has a big league body and several outstanding tools, a real upside play for a team -- again, I'm looking at you, San Diego -- that wants to roll the dice on a potential star and is willing to wait, especially because Benson's biggest weakness is his swing. MLB draft prospects Nos. 26-100 26. Josh Lowe, 3B/RHP, Pope HS (Marietta, Georgia) 27. Matt Thaiss, C, Virginia 28. Hunter Bishop, OF, Junipero Serra HS (San Mateo, California) 29. Justin Dunn, RHP, Boston College 30. Carter Kieboom, 3B, Walton HS (Marietta, Georgia) 31. Corbin Burnes, RHP, St. Mary's College 32. Robert Tyler, RHP, Georgia 33. Cooper Johnson, C, Carmel Catholic HS (Mundelein, Illinois) 34. Alex Speas, RHP, McEachern HS (Powder Springs, Georgia) 35. Alec Hansen, RHP, Oklahoma 36. Anthony Kay, LHP, Connecticut 37. Jeff Belge, LHP, Henninger HS (Syracuse, New York) 38. T.J. Zeuch, RHP, Pittsburgh 39. Zack Burdi, RHP, Louisville 40. Sean Murphy, C, Wright State 41. Gavin Lux, SS, Indian Trail Academy (Kenosha, Wisconsin) 42. Jesus Luzardo, LHP, Douglas HS (Parkland, Florida) 43. Ryan Boldt, OF, Nebraska 44. Taylor Trammell, OF, Mount Paran Christian (Kennesaw, Georgia) 45. Will Craig, 1B, Wake Forest 46. Lucas Erceg, 3B, Menlo College (California) 47. Zack Jackson, RHP, Arkansas 48. Luis Curbelo, OF, Cocoa (Florida) HS 49. Bailey Clark, RHP, Duke 50. Ryan Rolison, LHP, University School of Jackson (Tennessee) 51. Eric Lauer, LHP, Kent State 52. Bo Bichette, SS, Lakewood HS (St. Petersburg, Florida) 53. Ben Rortvedt, C, Verona (Wisconsin) Area HS 54. Jared Horn, RHP, Vintage HS (Napa, California) 55. Cole Ragans, LHP, North Florida Christian (Tallahassee, Florida) 56. Chris Okey, C, Clemson 57. Connor Jones, RHP, Virginia 58. Kyle Muller, LHP, Jesuit College Prep School of Dallas 59. Dane Dunning, RHP, Florida 60. Sheldon Neuse, SS, Oklahoma 61. Brandon Marsh, OF, Buford (Georgia) HS 62. Reggie Lawson, RHP, Victor Valley HS (Victorville, California) 63. Bryson Brigman, SS, San Diego 64. Jon Duplantier, RHP, Rice University 65. Buddy Reed, OF, Florida 66. Carlos Cortes, 2B, Oviedo (Florida) HS 67. Adam Laskey, LHP, Haddon Heights (New Jersey) HS 68. Logan Shore, RHP, Florida 69. Joe Rizzo, SS/3b, Oakton HS (Vienna, Virginia) 70. A.J. Puckett, RHP, Pepperdine 71. Braeden Ogle, LHP, Jensen Beach (Florida) HS 72. Chad Hockin, RHP, Cal State Fullerton 73. Daulton Jeffries, RHP, California 74. Mario Feliciano, C, Carlos Beltran Baseball Acad. (Puerto Rico) 75. Skylar Szynski, RHP, Penn HS (Mishawaka, Indiana) 76. Ben Bowden, LHP, Vanderbilt 77. Colby Woodmansee, IF, Arizona State 78. Peter Alonso, 1B, Florida 79. Nick Lodolo, LHP, Damien HS (La Verne, California) 80. Ryan Zeferjahn, RHP, Seaman HS (Topeka, Kansas) 81. Brett Cumberland, C, California 82. Matthias Dietz, RHP, John A. Logan College 83. Hudson Sanchez, 3B, Southlake (Texas) Carroll HS 84. Kyle Cody, RHP, Kentucky 85. Thomas Jones, OF, Laurens (South Carolina) HS 86. Nonie Williams, SS, Home-schooled (in Kansas) 87. Max Kranick, RHP, Valley View HS (Archbald, Pennsylvania) 88. Heath Quinn, OF, Samford 89. Drew Mendoza, SS, Lake Minneola (Florida) HS 90. Mike Shawaryn, RHP, Maryland 91. Dustin May, RHP, Northwest HS (Justin, Texas) 92. Conner Capel, OF, Seven Lakes HS (Katy, Texas) 93. Nolan Martinez, RHP, Culver City (California) HS 94. Akil Baddoo, OF, Salem HS (Conyers, Georgia) 95. Will Ethridge, RHP, Parkview HS (Lilburn, Georgia) 96. Tyler Mondile, RHP, Gloucester Catholic (Gloucester City, New Jersey) 97. Jose Miranda, 3B, Caguas (Puerto Rico) 98. Jeremy Martinez, C, USC 99. Davis Daniel, RHP, Saint James School (Montgomery, Alabama) 100. Dylan Carlson, 1B, Elk Grove (California) HS

How good of a spot is 10 in this draft? Is this a draft with a drop off after 3, 5, etc? Or much tougher to tell? Sorry if these are basic questions, I don't follow the draft closely

Hard to complain with him. He's exceeding expectations and seems like he's adding a lot of energy and enthusiasm. "All upside" from here!

I just feel AWFUL for the kid. Nobody deserves to be forced to see their father hit 200 in person every single day

Wow, I can't believe there's so many people on here who are blaming it on the Sox management. Unreal.

Why is the baseball prospectus playoff probability still so low? It says 8%

We are 6th to last place in the AL, have a negative 58 run differential, and will be at/under .500 when it hits August. These are all facts. Ok ok, I want to contend as much as anyone, but is this winning streak messing with our judgment here?

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:44 PM) If they want to win they need to add. Standing pat really makes the least sense out of all the moves. Giving up good prospects for a team 3 games under .500 at the end of July makes the least sense.

"Anyone who thinks we'll catch Cleveland (Kansas City) is crazy"

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 19, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) raBBit posted this link to his insight on what a potential Samardzija trade could look like. I think he's being pretty realistic and does a good job in explaining where's he's coming from. http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/fire...a-trade-part-2/ Thanks! Good read. Exciting that we can flip him for more than we gave up to get him.

Can someone summarize what kind of realistic return we should expect trading Samardzija? Doesn't have to be specific prospectus, but just a generalization is fine.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 18, 2015 -> 06:48 PM) I agree, we've made many moves that make us a contender for the AL Central. Spending some more to acquire/sign a Zimmerman, Scherzer, or Shields would move us from division contenders to World Series contenders. We've gone this far, so why not finish it off? It's an assumption that were one player away from the World Series. How did David Price to Detroit work out? Maybe this team jells really well, maybe it doesn't. Either way, we don't know if we're one player away or not.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 07:45 AM) Thank God you made a new thread because nobody mentioned it in the players movement thread...Oh wait. Newb The horrors of a new thread

Yeah I understand nothing much new was in that article but were all prone to confirmation bias - so always nice to hear others say a signing was a good idea!

"LaRoche is in what I like to call the "harvesting" phase of one's career. He has mastered the art of selectively pulling the ball in the air, and is going to ride that skill off into the sunset. Pitchers will eventually find and consistently attack his ever-increasing holes as his physical gifts fade, and that will be that. He is, however, moving to extremely fertile soil, a place where Paul Konerko, a similar to slightly lesser offensive player at a similar stage, in my opinion, was able to be extremely productive in his age 35 and 36 seasons. Take a look at a comparison of the field-sector park factors for LaRoche's old and new parks to get a sense for the infusion of youth his offensive game could experience this season....White Sox, Adam LaRoche, two years, $25 million, great value. Those words, at this moment in time, comfortably belong in the same sentence." http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=12104202

Happy HAHN-nikah everyone!