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QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) Yes, that is my point. The signing bonus they would get from the draft would be more than they could get playing in other leagues so they would probably take it, but it is less than they can get on an open market so it is hurting their earnings relative to the system that was in place and the one currently in place. I am not sure why the same argument isn't made in reverse then. Why is it fair that American players get their earnings hurt while international players are free agents simply by where they live? It is an inherently unfair system. The only way to make it fair is to subject everyone to the same rules, which would be a world wide draft like every other sport does.
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QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) But they get the signing bonus So do drafted players.
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2017-2018 NHL discussion thread
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670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 6m6 minutes ago Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman: “There’s no question that Vinnie [Hinostroza] is going to be here at some point.” -
Why would you leave off the area code amirite?
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2017-18 official NBA discussion thread
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NBC Sports ChicagoVerified account @NBCSChicago 12h12 hours ago Zach LaVine cleared for contact practice: http://bit.ly/2iDqXK0 (@vgoodwill) -
2017-18 official NBA discussion thread
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Yahoo SportsVerified account @YahooSports 18h18 hours ago Manute Bol's birthday was allegedly made up, and he might've played in the NBA at age 50 https://yhoo.it/2jLo7WO -
2017-18 NCAA Football Thread
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Reid LaymanceVerified account @ReidLaymance 17h17 hours ago Texas A&M plans to fire Kevin Sumlin after LSU game http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/aggies/article/Texas-A-M-plans-to-fire-Kevin-Sumlin-after-LSU-12375659.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social …://http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spo...medium=social … via @HoustonChron -
2017-18 official NBA discussion thread
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Mike McGraw @McGrawDHBulls 12h12 hours ago Antonio Blakeney about to be first guy to get his two-way contract converted to a full NBA deal. #Bulls -
Baseball AmericaVerified account @BaseballAmerica 3h3 hours ago As Kevin Maitan hits the market again, he's going to be a tough player for teams to evaluate because his pro reports vary pretty distinctly from his glowing amateur reports.
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Matt Eddy @MattEddyBA 3h3 hours ago The @whitesox signed minor league free agent 3B/RF Patrick Leonard, who played at Triple-A Durham this year and ranked 4th in IL with 32 2B. The @RaysBaseball acquired him after 2012 in the Wil Myers trade with the @Royals.
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Shohei Otani is likely coming to the USA
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James Fox @JamesFox917 2h2 hours ago Still some confusion out here amongst fans and media regarding Ohtani. Teams like #Dodgers #Cubs #WhiteSox can only give him a $300K bonus. There are no "special deals". Teams can't promise him a new deal after a couple years. It will be heavily frowned about and crippling to a franchise. He signs standard minor league deal. Then he has 3 pre-arb years and 3 arb years. #Cubs and #Dodgers could use next year's international money to sign Kevin Maitan however or any of the other prospects released yesterday. -
So post his phone number.
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NBC ChicagoVerified account @nbcchicago 13h13 hours ago Dramatic video shows North Korean soldier’s sprint to freedom http://nbcchi.com/vW7uaBV
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2017-18 NCAA Football Thread
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Mark SchlabachVerified account @Mark_Schlabach 2h2 hours ago Filed to ESPN: Chip Kelly met with UCLA officials in LA on Tuesday. He is expected to decide between Florida and UCLA jobs in coming days. He is not expected to consider any other college openings -
2017-2018 NHL discussion thread
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Mark LazerusVerified account @MarkLazerus 1h1 hour ago On a team of flowery players, Lance Bouma is a hockey Hemingway. He's also one of the Blackhawks' most effective players. Story: https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/blackhawks-grinder-lance-bouma-finds-efficiency-in-simplicity/amp/ …://https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports...mplicity/amp/ … -
He was a doctor for Team USA gymnastics The Detroit NewsVerified account @detroitnews 1h1 hour ago BREAKING: Nassar pleads guilty to raping underage gymnasts http://detne.ws/2jOk23Y via @kimberkoz
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Shohei Otani is likely coming to the USA
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According to MLB network, 3 teams have over $3 million to spend (Rangers, Yankees, Twins) and the Pirates have about 2.2 million. MLB NetworkVerified account @MLBNetwork 41m41 minutes ago Let the Shohei Ohtani sweepstakes begin! #MLBNHotStove -
QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 10:18 AM) Korea now has guys going there from the majors and sending guys back to the majors, so their talent has seemingly increased lately, but this article tries to compare foreign leagues to the different minor league levels. Considering almost all of the latin players play in the DSL for their first year and hopefully make it to the US rookie leagues by the time they are 18, there is very little chance they would be at an appropriate talent level to play in Korea or Mexico. And even if they could play in Mexico, I don't think they would choose that alternative. This article talks about the cap on salaries for non-Mexican players to be $6500/month, or about $78,000 if they are paid for every month. Considering they would probably make more than that just from their signing bonus, they would probably just take the bonus. US players make a fraction of that unless they are on the 40 man roster.
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Quit bothering people at work today!
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Only person in the office today.
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Shohei Otani is likely coming to the USA
southsider2k5 replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) Of those four, really only the Mariners have a regular DH that would compete for ABs. Believe me, I love to follow the NPB and I want Otani on the White Sox BADLY (I subscribe to the PL streaming service and watched all of Otani's starts this year), but this one is looking to be very, very unlikely for us. Really, no AL team has less to offer him on paper than we do. We're not currently a contender, have the least amount of money to give, exist in an underperforming media market (given the Cubs and compared to LA/NYC), and we have a guy who will likely need to compete for DH at bats going forward (Abreu). On top of that, the Sox are one of the few teams who didn't bother to send anyone to go see him pitch this year, and there have been no indications that they've contacted his agent. To me, it appears that the Sox consciously chose to put their eggs in the Luis Robert basket instead of joining the scrum for Otani, knowing that they had a much better chance of landing Robert given their ability to spend big and offer a Cuban-friendly clubhouse. Sad, but very accurate. -
QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 06:55 PM) I hope I didn't come off as dismissive there. I was curious if I was misunderstanding something. That being said, I don't see why these guys already having a payday would make a difference to the players as they hit the free market. Do you think their agents and/or managers care these guys already got paid a little bit (by baseball standards) a few years ago? These guys are going to get paid as much as they possibly can in more cases than not. If any one of these guys sign with the Sox it's because they are the caliber of prospect, at this moment in time, who is only worth 300K at the most. I am 100% on board with this post. The odds of us getting the top guys is about zero. Our hope is that with the competition for Ohtani and the other teams being capped out, that someone maybe slips through the cracks or that another team is willing to deal us a live prospect in order to get room to get one of these deals done, if we have any space left.
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QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 05:49 PM) But less than in the minors, so they wouldn't be able to play in front of scouts. Its like what happens with high school basketball players who try to play overseas instead of go to college for a year. They don't get as much playing time, so they don't develop and get better, and scouts don't get to see them as much so they usually end up drafted lower than expected. Not really. Places like Mexico and Korea are very lowly rated in terms of talent. If money really is the concern they can go to a place like that, get paid probably 10 times what they would be paid in the US minors, and get to play.
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Shohei Otani is likely coming to the USA
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Joel ShermanVerified account @Joelsherman1 4m4 minutes ago So unless for some reason MLB owners do not ratify next Fri, Ohtani likely posted shortly after and signed before December is concluded. #LetTheBiddingBegin https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/933117213598461953 Beginning next offseason Japanese clubs will get 20 percent of the value for a player who signs an MLB contract of less than $25M, 17 1-2 pct for $25M-$50M, 15 pct $50M-$100M. For $100M or more 1st $25M 20pct, next $25M 17 1-2 pct, anything above that 15 pct
