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So Shields had some sort of back problem, and Carson Fulmer just pitched another 0 ER outing pitching on the same day. I'll let you guys do the math.

QUOTE (coco1997 @ Sep 3, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) Woah, woah, let's not get ahead of ourselves. What if he winds up being a flash in the pan and totally tanks next year? Yes, instead of praising his players, Ventura should totally tell the media, but what if he sucks???

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) I'm a lifelong Republican and I gladly voted for Obama last time. I vote for the best candidate and Romney to me was a clown. I could never vote for Hillary Clinton, though I do still like Bill. For the life of me I don't understand how she has 90-95 percent of the African American vote. It's not like she is going to help ANY particular cause of anybody. Is there some kind of false hope going on here? p.s. Just for clarification those who are calling African Americans a "minority" now are grossly incorrect, right? African Americans outnumber whites by a significant amount in the census now, isn't that correct? Whites should be considered a minority now. None of your last paragraph is actually true. Take to google for a couple of minutes.

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 3h3 hours ago Minneapolis, MN Todd Frazier is on pace to hit 41 home runs this season

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 1h1 hour ago Changeup is changing things for Carlos Rodon, who was 3-0 with a 1.47 ERA in August. http://bit.ly/2bZ8wNx

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) Did you mean to put this post in a Jose Abreu thread? Ha, I went scrolling backwards to try to figure out what that was in response to.

The pen has been gutted. Half of it is hurt or otherwise gone. Jones and Robertson have been forced into more long outings, and have shown wear because of it. As a betting man I would say that one of the big fixes for next year is going to be Zach Burdi in some form, probably as a set up man early, potentially as the closer late. I think most of the pen fixes are already in the pipeline.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 12:37 PM) They've had competitive seasons that were exciting. 06, 08, 10, 12 were all good seasons to watch. If you only think winning world series is exciting, then why/how do people start liking in the first place and continue to like this team looking at our World Series success? Why are you a fan if you haven't had excitement in 11 years? Sounds like you need a new hobby. My big question is why are people wasting their time if this isn't something they get enjoyment out of?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 11:01 AM) The Chicago White Sox do NOT fall in the category of the "have nots". Compared to the top tier of MLB? They were tied for 20th in total revenue, and less than half of what the leading team was. Let me put it this way, to make it even clearer. They were $47 million in revenue ahead of Tampa Bay, the lowest revenue team in baseball. They trailed the Yankees by $276 million. They are clearly a have not.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) Story in the Sun-Times today said the MLB naming rights average sponsorship money is four million a year. Sox are getting less that that. However as others have pointed out the separate deal which the Sox decline to reveal details on could move the needle up on the Sox yearly money figure. Mark And unlike the stadium money, the other money goes straight to the Sox. So the ISTA and Illinois taxpayers lose, and the Sox win.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 08:20 AM) Hillary needs to abandon her current campaign slogan and immediately turn to "Taco Trucks on Every Corner" because i want that The DNC was sure on board with it.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) Why not? The White Sox are a big market team with potential to draw. The numbers were there after 2005. They are in a major TV market and with the explosion of growth of the SW burbs, a much wider potential fan base than the Cubs Also, as has been stated .. The comparisons to the KC and Pitts teams of the past are irrelevant. Small market teams..their droughts were in a different financial era of baseball There is still a massive divide between the haves and have nots in baseball, and revenue is the truest division. Small market teams occasionally make it out, but they disappear quickly. I used KC and Pittsburgh as examples before. So they finally did something positive right? Yeah, look at where they are right now.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 12:42 AM) Yes. But when Colin and others protest by sitting during the anthem, it's really a direct slap in the face to military men and women. This is ignorant. The right to free speech is so much more important than pretending to honor the military with a national anthem which isn't really a tradition. Do you really want to honor the military? Call your Congressmen and tell them to fix that deathtrap they call the VA. I promise you that will honor them much more than standing for the national anthem, as it would actually save lives. If you want to talk about slaps in the face to the military, that is #1.

I don't think we have another one of these floating around, but this article is worth sharing... Space X has an explosion on their launch pad during a test this morning, and it blew up a satellite of Facebook's. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37247077

It is crazy to read things about how much the bullpen and offense trail the averages, and think that we aren't a 45 win team.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) If I am understanding the source article correctly the stadium deal is worth $2 million-ish, but GR signed deals with the Sox to spend the additional money (making it a total of $6.5 million) in actual advertising with the team. If you click the link inside of the CBS article it takes you this bit.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) I'm sorry, but what happened to this deal being worth $6M+ a year? Am I missing something here? If I am understanding the source article correctly the stadium deal is worth $2 million-ish, but GR signed deals with the Sox to spend the additional money (making it a total of $6.5 million) in actual advertising with the team.

http://m.mlb.com/whitesox/tickets/info/pas...69601-925133763

670 The Score ‏@670TheScore 2h2 hours ago Report: White Sox's new stadium naming rights deal with Guaranteed Rate will net them about $2M annually http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/09/01/rep...ut-2m-annually/

Chicago White Sox ‏@whitesox 9m9 minutes ago The #WhiteSox also sent right-hander Miguel Gonzalez on an injury rehabilitation assignment at Class AAA Charlotte.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 12:15 PM) People are fixated on the Cubs rebuild but the Sox will never rebuild or spend like the Cubs have in their rebuilding process. If there is any team for the Sox to model a rebuild after it should be the Indians. They have even less financial flexibility and still put out a title contender this year after a few years of shrewd moves including trades, lower tier free agent signings, and good drafting. There are a whole lot of people who seem to believe that the Sox can take the Cubs path.

Chicago White Sox Verified account ‏@whitesox Prior to tonight’s game, the #WhiteSox recalled RHP Juan Minaya and C Kevan Smith from Class AAA Charlotte.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 12:01 PM) Yes, I want you to apologize for saying he was figured out by MLB pitching, which has nothing to do with his fielding. Stick to YOUR point. He had a 1.062 OPS in August. Just admit you were dead f***ing wrong. Nah, if I were a betting man I would bet he is just going to wait until the next time Abreu slumps and then post a new thread about how Abreu sucks, and he knew it all along.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) It took the Cubs 5 years of averaging 90+ losses to rebuild. The Astros took 6. The Twins are in year 5 of 6 at 90+, they did win 83 last year. Those, I would guess, "are done properly". The decades of droughts like KC and Pittsburgh, not so good. I can see why JR doesn't want to do it. If he isn't going to do it, he has to up the payroll and not depend on J-Roll. And in addition to their rebuild, they also have a fan base that afforded them a high level of attendance during their rebuild which allowed them to spend something like half a billion dollars in new contracts to supplement that rebuild. We don't have that luxury.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 11:59 AM) Ok, let's follow this logic. Let's assume that management is terrible and will continue making terrible decisions. The only way for this team to become a playoff team, therefore, will be by accident - things that were stupid decisions will need to wind up working out. In that case, can you provide a convincing argument why "all in every year" and putting the 3rd or 4th best roster in the division on the field every year has a better chance of providing the accidental playoff team than a decade long rebuilding? I will totally grant that it is possible to put the 3rd or 4th best roster in the division on the field and eventually, once every 10 or 20 years of doing that, you will win the division. But unless you can present an argument why the odds of success are higher by fielding a mid-level team every year, that's the same timescale you've argued it would take for this terrible management to pull off a rebuild. I know this has become a religious mantra around here, but we haven't been "All in" for years.