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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2011 -> 07:18 AM) There is absolutely no reason to even consider that shutting him down for the full year would be good for anything. Unless there is actual underlying damage in his arm which would necessitate another surgery, then shutting him down would just give the muscles in his arm time to atrophy more. And we'd go through the exact same process again, only worse. Honestly that is the scenario we are looking at with any of the "OMG SHUT HIM DOWN" posts.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 08:54 PM) People keep asking who's out there? If you want Ozzie and KW gone who do you replace them with? The answer is I have no f***ing clue. I didn't know who I wanted when we were trying to replace Manuel back in '03. Certainly not Ozzie. And anybody who says they wanted Ozzie outside of knowing he once played SS for the White Sox is lying. Nobody knew who the hell KW was outside of that he once played for the Sox. That's it. I want a Theo Epstein, Andrew Friedman, Alex ASFSADFSGA type. A younger, not so stubborn GM, who realizes how critical long-term success is. Not just emptying out your eggs into one basket every year. A GM that's more innovative. Not so old-school. That realizes the importance of advanced statistical analysis. The game is changing, evolving every year. For a manager, I want one that realizes the times were in. The league were in. One who's not stubborn to a fault and gets the most out of his personal. Realizes his players' strength and weaknesses. I don't want entertainment. Ozzie's swearing and soundbites were cool back in '06. It's old now. Seriously, if the Sox next GM doesn't have experience and is like 35 years old, all of Soxtalk will erupt because JR is cheap.

And most importantly, what does their attendence look like?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 11:48 PM) University of Notre Dame, you are a f***ing joke. We already knew that, but you showed it even more today. Re: Sullivan report. Way to take "responsiblity" Mr. President.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 10:08 PM) I'd like to point out Rose has more blocks than James and more offensive rebounds. Rose is good as a defender. Blocks are a terrible way to measure defense. Getting beat to the basket and swating someone from behind doesn't make you a good defender.

QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:22 PM) But if the cheap, available, tickets mean you can see more of a team, wouldn't that lead to a fanbase? I was surprised that the Bears would be an easier competitor than the Bulls. Now I can see why from these posts. I am also starting to believe that the Bears fanbase incudes a lot of "Cubs-like" fans who just enjoy the experience of attending an NFL game. The next question would be, if you had the money and the go ahead to start a team anywhere in the world, where would it be? I'm not certain if Chicago is the ultimate spot. I think most of that is because of the station of both of these teams. I bet the answers would have been very different 5 years ago.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) I don't have a problem talking about the problems of this team, because there are problems with this team, even some I didn't envision it having. Fact of the matter is, the board is seemingly split pretty equally into "it's too early to worry about this stuff" and "this team is toast, sell it off and cancel the season." There is absolutely no middle ground whatsoever. So, if you want to talk about problems this team is having, that's absolutely fine, because I'll talk about the problems this team is having. But if you are going to even bring up the thought of this team selling parts off at this point in the year, I'm going to call you ridiculous or stupid or overreactive and then we're going to get even less done than we normally do on this site. That is pretty accurate if you ask me.

Wow. This would have been nice, I don't know, like all year long? I wonder if this is enough to rattle Vancouver?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 08:24 PM) Oh God, am I tired of being compared to other losers. And despite them having short playoff appearances, they've had many more appearances in a much shorter span of time. And I am tired of the expectations of winning the world series every year

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 04:19 PM) With four playoff appearances to show for it, being shown the door immediately in 3 of those 4 opportunities. Always just good enough to be relevant, but just bad enough to not make a splash. Hello Minnesota Twins?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 05:44 PM) See Garcia, Freddie. I'd like to think he'd consistently be at least 90-92 instead of 86-89 though. Then it might be hopeless. Depends on how much movement he has on his pitches. Considering until yesterday he already has been at 90-93, I'd say that is pretty safe.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 04:50 PM) SARCASM WILL DEFLECT ALL OF OUR OBVIOUS STRUGGLES AS A TEAM FOR BOTH THIS YEAR AND THE RECENT PAST SO WILL SCREAMING ABOUT THEM ON A RANDOM MESSAGE BOARD.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) Oh come on now. How many of these pain related setbacks since the start of spring training? Three now? And guess where he is still on track for? The first week of May. That was by far the most optimistic view coming into this season. Most of the dramatics dealt with the All-Star break or later.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) Stop complaining. Just be blindly optimistic until they are mathematically eliminated. No keep stomping your feet until they win.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) Peavy to miss one start. MRI normal

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:10 PM) Yeah but i think the fact that people that probably identify more with chicago are now fans of another city now because they started winning a lot shows that these loyalties are a lot more fluid than we'd imagine. I think there is enough of a market of people who are half bears fans or who are big football fans to fill up 8 games. Do I think it would be as successful as the bears? No. Do I think it would be more successful than the jaguars? Yes. Same with the white sox. We may play second fiddle to a second team in the city but we grab enough to justify chicago having 2 baseball teams. The Sox have been in Chicago for 110 years. Adding a new team will start from stratch.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:00 PM) White Sox have insurance on Peavy for reported around 70% of his contract? http://www.csnchicago.com/04/19/11/Kaplan-...487&qv=1#bp Still sucks to lose all those players in the trade, but at least we apparently won't be on the hook for all that money. The important detail left out is what is left out of that article. What does it take to trigger a claim? Missed starts? DL time? A specific minimum length of DL time?

You forgot the kind that revels in misery.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) Which argument are you making? It takes a lot to get people to adapt a second team. People aren't going to adapt it just because ticket prices are chep.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) Put a consistent winner out there. Problem solved. Not a team that consistently plays just well enough to stay relevant until the final month, but a team that makes a playoff appearance at a decent clip. That team exists with Bigfoot and the Tooth Fairy, or a couple of hunderd million dollars. Seriously White Sox fans are starting to sound like Red Sox fans with their "demands".

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:43 PM) Maybe I'm mistaken, but haven't all the tickets on Stubhub already been purchased by someone and are just on there for re-sale? On those tickets the team already got their money whether anybody sits in the seats or not. That is my point. Those tickets are already out there.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) Pray for a rain delay double header? Seriously, hasn't Danks pitched on 4/20 for 3 out of the last 4 seasons? Maybe OG has a side hobby.. In Tampa?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:38 PM) Not exactly, but it's still a cheap attack based on the self-serving accusations of a demonstrably insane person. Sure it is. That doesn't mean it isn't true though. Hell Blago is a product of Madigan himself, so he probably know the dealmaking better than most.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:13 PM) Seems kinda silly to demand explanations or hold others accountable for crazy stuff Blago says to save his own ass. This is Mike Madigan. Despite the source, do you have a doubt in your mind that this is possible, or even probable? I know I don't.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) And how many times did we hear "The Cardinals only won 83 games and won the World Series" when we suck? The point is, losing streaks happen over the course of a season. It is normal.