southsider2k5

Ha, you think Felix's thread lured in suckers, this is the King!

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...-back-soon.html

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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 09:56 AM) We went hard after Putz. He chased the money and a place that was closer to home. We were never going to get him. i don't think this is a legitimate point to harp on. And Jenks.... Jenks just sucks. With his injury history, I don't think there were many in favor of giving him a multi-year deal IIRC. It feels like revisionist history for both Putz and Jenks.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) One more- Yesterday on White Sox weekly (I think) when that guy wanted to know why the Sox don't have Kotsay anymore and proceeded to argue that he would be a good replacement for Juan Pierre- -how tall was the building you were in? -did you jump? Nicely done.

Remember how debt was OK because the interest rates are low... How about when they aren't? http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/18/news/econo...on=money_latest

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 09:22 AM) I'll give them til June. They will have played enough sample to know if they're good. Sometimes teams don't get respect until they're actually good. Think back to San Diego last year, or Kansas City in 03. Sometimes teams can make a good run, despite a lack of ready talent.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 08:46 AM) Are the Indians for real? Masterson and Tomlin have been outstanding. Carmona is coming around. Sizemore is back. And don't forget...the power of Orlando Cabrera. No.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) Randolph has actually been on his best behavior since being traded to Memphis. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but something clicked. Hopefully he finally figured it out, but I am going to be a doubter just because he has always been in trouble, back to his first arrest in 8th grade.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 06:50 PM) Don't think the Sox will offer arbitration to JP after this season. Not a chance.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 07:54 PM) If my job was to talk to fans, no matter where, I'd have to bring it here as well. Bad-mouthing the Sox would be tantamount to bad-mouthing his boss. And, if you're like any employee, you just don't do it where you think it can get back to him. I think even more than that, it can also come off as calling your customers idiots. For all of the talking that goes on here about people like Hawk, how many of you same posters are out there telling off the people who bring revenue into your business? I'm guessing for all of the internet toughness we see on here, it doesn't much translate to your respective workplaces, and for good reason.

Funny, unless Carlos Zambrano is on the team, I don't think it will help.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 18, 2011 -> 07:37 AM) The big problem with this theory ni is that a team these days simply can't be competitive without the big money guys. The people who would spend $20 a ticket can't support a team. The skyboxes are the places that make it profitable. What might work is increasing total capacity, by say, a 100,000-ish person stadium, where you can stick the person who wants to pay $20 far, far away from the playing field but still get their money, but any 2nd team that doesn't nearly completely fill a complement of skyboxes is a failed team. With the NFL blackout rules, any new team in the NFL would be stupid to have a 100,000 seat stadium. It is one thing for a team like Dallas to do it, but it would be suicide for a team going into an already established market to do it.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 11:35 PM) You've got to be somewhat pleased with the future of the Hawks though. They've got a ton of young talent down in Rockford, and plenty of them got valuable experience this year. Morin, Kruger, Toews, Kane, Frolik, Stalberg, Bickell, Bolland, Smith, Brouwer, Leddy, Hjalmarsson, Seabrook all 25 or younger right now. You've got to be pleased with the way Crawford played this year, especially with the swiss-cheese defense we had in front of him. Then you've got Makarov, Beach, the Hayes brothers, Vishnevskiy and Connolly waiting in the wings. And it seems like the organization is high on Salak, the goalie we got in the Skille deal. The Hawks should be a perennial playoff team for a long time with the core they have. Consistent production from the top players combined with development from the young guys should be enough for the offense to stay strong. The defense needs some help, no doubt, but I also don't think anyone could have, or should have, expected the regression from Keith and Seabrook this year. And the Campbell injury really got us off on the wrong foot to start the year. They don't have much wiggle room, as you mentioned, but they should be able to solidify some things here and there. If they could somehow rid themselves of Soupy's contract, they'd be well on their way. But it's damn near impossible to do. They needed some of the guys in that group to take steps forward this year, and it didn't really happen, outside of Leddy and Crawford. The good thing is that there really wasn't anyone on the team this year who had a big year and you feel like is due for a regression. They have just got to get guys who jump out and take the reigns. The Hawks have to get the pressure off of the top two lines. On the blue line, they are deep enough, just the guys getting paid like stars, have to start playing like stars again.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 11:18 PM) According to CapGeek, the Hawks are at about $8 million under the cap for next year with 14 players accounted for. So not a ton of wiggle room to add. Gonna probably have to hope the young guys improve leaps and bounds, and the current guys rebound. So glad they won last year because the window is so so so small in the NHL with such a low salary cap. Amazing how the Red Wings have managed to be a top 4 seed so many damn years. Wow, I thought I had read that the Hawks were going to have the same sort of money problems this year as they did last year. That leaves us room to reup Crawford, and still maybe find some depth.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 09:48 PM) Hawks have a lot of work to do in the offseason. And no cap room to do it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 09:46 PM) Absolutely, and I have no reason to believe we didn't. You really believe if we called 29 teams about Ozzie, only one story would have gotten out?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 06:48 PM) Unreal...everyone knows that it was the Marlins that said no (I believe it was Fred Mitchell that reported that). I'll always respect JR and KW for being open-minded about that. So you were trying to say that the Sox should have actively shopped Ozzie?

Gotta do it right here.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 09:10 PM) zach randolph > kevin love Randolph is Kevin Love's ability with an idiots brain.

Ba-hahahahah

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 06:52 PM) Steve, you've become a homer to the extreme. I'm just fine with Rose. But don't act like comparing Rose and Paul is like comparing MJ to Reggie Miller. When you factor in age and mileage, it kinda is.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 12:18 PM) It almost feels like the Hawks have to score first to have a chance. I know that is irrational, but it is just a feeling. Jesus I had no idea the Canucks were 43-2-6 if they scored first.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 06:28 PM) A second basketball team would fail in Chicago. A second NFL team with nicer facilities and decent prices might succeed though. I can't see any NFL team taking fans from the Bears for at least a generation. Chicago people in general are Bears fans first, and then fans of the other teams. Heck even many Bulls fans were Jordan fans first.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2011 -> 06:28 PM) I'm saying we were willing to listen to trade offers for Ozzie apparently. I'm well aware that the Marlins said no, yet I don't know why we went and extended Ozzie when it's pretty obvious if we struggle this year, he's gone. That isn't anywhere close to you what you were trying to say.