southsider2k5

This is solid posting.

The 2nd half was flat out embarrassing.

Is this the class with the next Tatis, or is that 24?

This is better, and still leaves some room for the Cuban imports.

With as much as name recognition and attention as this brings them, it will probably never die. You want it to be dropped? Quit talking about it.

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Weirdos above replacement.

Then by your own logic, there is no need for you to comment at all, because it isn't known. But that sure hasn't stopped you.

Yeah, but lOgIC

Look, you can keep feeding us all this I am just applying LoGiC crap that you can hide behind as to not overtly be seen as defending Clevinger. It's the oldest trick in the 2nd level Troll book, the whole I am just asking questions here, not actually defending this... I can appreciate that you seem to have enough rational thought to not leave yourself a nice place to hide on the sidelines, but if you cared about ACTUAL logic, you would understand the stats as they pertain to domestic abuse.

This is true, just not in the way think it is. It's also absolutely true that you have been entirely one sided in your arguments here.

It is some of the most ridiculous water carrying I have seen for a while.

And, again, stuff like ^ this happens WAAAAAAY more often than false reporting.

Don't we have this much today?

Just read he even has an option. I have to imagine someone will make a deal for him.

Simple titles for simple... well anyways

One thing I am going to mention here. Not being charged, and even not being found guilty does not make a person innocent. People want to talk about false reporting, but let's point out what the odds of conviction actually are when we are talking about these cases. Almost every incident that happens in these types of categories does NOT result in a conviction. It typically takes years of stepping up levels of violence before a conviction can happen, if ever. We are talking about a conviction rate that is actually lower than the false reporting rate for domestic violence.

You can almost hear Jerry accepting the challenge.

Wagner and Andruw Jones deserve it more than Rolen. Fight me.

Look, we KNOW the Sox history here. They HAVE actively hired and employed people with active investigations and charges going on. We KNOW the Sox have kept that information to themselves until which time they couldn't hide it anymore. We KNOW they employ people with extremely questionable histories and backgrounds. We know the Sox and the front office are currently the target of as discrimination lawsuit. We also know that we don't always get the whole truth in the moment from this organization. I am not going to pretend to know what effort this franchise made, and what knowledge level they really had here, but I am also not going to begrudge anyone who doesn't give the Sox the benefit of the doubt here because they sure as hell haven't earned that right.

I almost wonder if the AJ experience makes the Sox think they can fit anyone into the lockerroom.

They claimed they knew nothing, and I have yet to see a follow up.

It isn't his job per se, but in his position, you ARE responsible for what happens underneath you. That's why Hahn gets generic blame here from people. Yes people understand that it isn't Hahn himself out sleuthing each player, but someone under his should be doing it and reporting back to him. If it isn't happening, that means Hahn isn't doing his job by making sure he has all of the information he needs to make good decisions.

That's pretty solid TBH.