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The post you all have been waiting for.... the pics on a blog! The Storm of 06, a pictorial

Wow.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 02:42 PM) And I have to say, I find it bizarre and kind of sad that property values and housing costs are indeed so high in New Orleans. Price and value should be influenced by demand. You'd have to be pretty stupid to "demand" to have a house in a city that sits on a hurricane-prone below-sea level flood plain, and which has some of the highest crimes rates and worst schools in the country. Something I saw Sunday I wanted to site... Commerical building costs skyrocketing in Chicago QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 04:04 PM) SS, Great post, that was worth my annual subscription fee. There is a lot of unskilled labor, close by, who would love to build homes and eventually buy one. Problem is, most American's do not want them here. So we need another plan. I was just listening to a NPR report that basically stated the government and its planners are trying to avoid a jack-o-latern development. That is, flying over at night one sees lights on here and over there and ong stretches of darkness in between. The two competiting factors here are A. The cities ability and resources to bring utilities to every neighborhood and B. People wanting to rebuild their home in their neighborhood. It seems that not only is New Orleans facing the problems you have just described, but there is no master redevelopment plan of which areas will be rebuilt and in what order. The idea of telling someone not to rebuild their home because the government wants them over there smacks of failed Russian social planning. But unplanned will result in slower, more expensive growth. This is unprecidented in our history. I wonder what Japan did after WW2? Some facts and figures to also back up the loss of labor I referred to initially. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...na.1a64643.html The lack of a coherant plan, and the willful decesion (it seems) not to have one, is a big part of the problems in rebuilding according to many familiar with the pace of rebuilding. http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll...NYT02/608270848 Nagin calls the lack of a plan "democracy in action". http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://w...IAE1Q24_MZtQ60_

Well we are now pushing 48 hours and still no power. Our block literally is an electric free oasis... We just threw out a freezer, refridgerator, and most of a deep freezers worth of food

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 02:12 PM) If a white player gets booed...is it racism? I didn't think sounds equated racism. I think the point is that there are a lot of non-white players who end up getting booed, and receieving hate mail, much of it using their race as a derogatory basis. If it keeps being non-white players, when does it become a pattern?

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 02:11 PM) good point. those were the 2 things that came to mind first. I'm sure we drop billions in aid to other areas of the world too. its not that i'm against helping others, its just that our priorities are backwards. shouldnt we be spending us taxpayer dollars in the us first before giving it away to other areas of the world? i commend aids relief in Africa... but we have an Aids problem here in the US. Why not work on relieving/reducing this problem first before solving the rest of the worlds problems. (homelessness, education, public works, etc) poorly worded, but i think the point he was trying to make is that New Orleans should not just be rebuilt for the haves without the have nots. See my other thread in the Sex, Lies and Music category. Housing/Rental prices are keeping the poorest individuals from coming back to the city. If the city was 60% African American prior to Katrina, somethings wrong with the rebuilding effort if its 70% Caucasian afterwards. How exactly would you propose finding a labor force to build a city of about 500,000 people in a really poor city, where half the city has not returned, much of the city is still in ruins because many residents are using their constitutional rights to resist wholesale demolition of their buildings and property in many instances, meanwhile resisting such historical tools of segregation such as quick bulk housing projects which are getting torn down in the rest of the country? There are a ton of factors at work here. Its not just as simple as the article wants to make it. Read between the numbers here... -You have to find enough people who have the ability to build, and all of the different skills that it takes to do so, for both commericial and resident facilities. You aren't talking about the usual building that goes on perpetually in a city, but literally the largest sustained construction project ever undertaken in the history of the United States. So on top of needing a way larger construction force than ever did exsist in New Orleans, you are talking about a city that has lost half of its residents by most estimates. In other words your labor pool has just fallen by half, while needing an astronomical amount more labor. How many people just have the ability to uproot and leave to work in New Orleans because that is where the labor is needed? Most people working construction are probably pretty fixed into their labor market, as are most people. They have a solid job, with a good salary, family, friends etc. Basically to cut between the lines there are going to be two types of people who will go to NO work, and that is either people who can't resist a bunch more money, or people who need work really bad and have the ability to just up and leave for it. That means a lot of illegal labor, and a lot of high wages. It only makes sense that home prices are going to go way up, because it is going to cost a lot more to get extra labor to build NO. -Materials have to come from somewhere to build all of these places again. Once again, when demand surges for something, the cost of it is going to go up. No one planned on Katrina happening in 2005, including the people who supply homebuilding materials. With a fixed supply and a jump in demand, once again that means higher costs, which means higher home prices. -Much of New Orleans is still a disaster area, which means there are still big areas that aren't being built in. large swaths of NO still don't have basic infrastructure such as passable roads, electricity, phone, etc, which limits how many areas can be built in at one time, even if you were to have enough labor to meet demands. Again there is yet another limit, this time on housing supply. -If New Orleans were predominatly poor before the storm, and these poor people lost what little they did have, where are they going to find the money to buy into a market that costs way more than when they left? The answer is, they aren't. There is going to be a demographic shift towards the people who can afford to buy in New Orleans, which by and large isn't the former poor black residents.

I agree totally with the sentiment at the end of the article. Over the last 10 years or so, the Sox have had awesome ideas for promotions, and we got nada a mention in there. They invented the sleepover and Dog Day, not to mention some of their newer things like the Go-Cart races.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 12:41 PM) Did it work? Jason slept out on the coach didn't he? I'd say the Raid got rid of the pest then...

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) Yep so consider yourself very special right now. I've hit double figures on the amount of beers I've had tonight, and I also had some Jager Boms, and some other Vodka / Cocktail stuff mixed with Pepsi. So let's just say don;t expect to hear from me from at least another 12-18 hours from now. All though the toilet might hear from you...

IMO we are long past the "IF" part of Frank going into the HOF. The question now is first ballot or not?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 12:21 PM) We are very likely the only Sox website around with a drunk Aussie right now. I think we have our new slogan!!!

One of my fav's Mike's Chicken today for the Fingers and fries. Yummy. This is definately satisfactory to me.

QUOTE(Drew @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 03:18 AM) I'd rather have another Comissioner's Trophy. ^^^^

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http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2006/07/1...for-extinction/

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 08:39 AM) The back-up catcher is hitting .330 and bats 3rd in the line-up as well. Also he had the best pitcher in baseball on the mound. The big thing was, he won the game. My problem with some of Ozzie's decisions, like Mack in CF, is it comes back to haunt almost every game. There can't be one White Sox fan alive who has seen Mack play 5 games in CF that doesn't know its not a good idea for him to be out there. I also couldn't care less Ozzie gotten ejected 5 times this season. His ejection at Detroit was warranted. He was sticking up for his players. If he didn't go, a player would have eventually been tossed. My problem with Ozzie is the continuing battle he creates off the field with other team's players and coaches and managers. For the poster that wanted to know where Mariotti gets all the Ozzie quotes...he gets them the same way most of us do, through newpapers, radio and televison. The big thing there is you have the rear view mirror to look into now. Its easy to look back a situation and say they won/lost so it was a good/bad move. Mostly I just wanted to offer up some examples of some of the "great" managers that we hear about so often, of things that Ozzie often gets criticized for himself. When you watch a single team all of the time, and get something specific in your head, when you watch a 162 games you will be able to find tons of examples of it to support your opinion, pretty much no matter what it is. Hell I can't believe people are honestly saying things like we are better off without Jim Thome in the line up?!?!?

Me as a starting pitcher?

I also wanted to throw this post out there about Gardenhire getting ejected for arguing balls and strikes... http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1263852 Then I am also throwing out there the fact that he rested the leading hitter in MLB and his starting catcher the last day of the series against the Sox in which the Twins were trying to win the series to get within one game of the Sox, while a loss would have meant a 3 game deficit? How do you rest the leading hitter in baseball against a rival with the series and that pivotal of a game on the line?

I thought I saw a ton of Sox jersies down there today Excellent

Just for arguement's sake... -In the third game of the series, with the Tigers trailing only by one run, having scored two runs in the sixth inning, instead of running a guy like Zumaya out there to keep them close, Leyland runs Colby Lewis back out there, who promptly faces 3 batters and gets none out. -To start the 4th and final game of the series, with the final result either being ahead by 5.5 or 7.5 games, he leaves on the bench Ivan Rodriguez, Omar Infante, and Marcus Thames, while starting Neifi Perez. -Also in the key 4th game Leyland does not take his starting pitcher out multiple different times in the middle innings when he could have theoretically stopped the bleeding and tried to give the offense a chance to get back in it. Instead Robertson goes 6.2 innings and gives up 10 earned runs. -Casey finished the game at first base after being thrown out first by Pablo Ozuna from left field because he was too busy throwing a temper tantrum and not paying attention to the fact that Joe Crede did NOT catch his line drive.

QUOTE(beautox @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 02:30 AM) Do you think Boone will get a sept call up? and do you think it will be him or tracey for next year out of the chi sox pen? or both provided we don't resign riske. Logan will be a really nice asset for the Sox in September. I wouldn't even be surprised if someone like Neal Cotts ended up "hurt" right before the playoff roster, and Logan ended up on it.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Aug 24, 2006 -> 05:25 PM) As I posted around the trade deadline, the one trade I feared most was Bobby Abreu to the Yankees. What really pissed me off was that they got him for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And it is pretty clear now that Abreu has been the difference in the Yankees coming from behind Boston to crushing the BoSox and having the second best record in the AL. Now, I don't think it is too late for the Sox to make the playoffs as the wild card (don't think we're going to catch the Tigers) and beat the hated Yanks starting in their house. But Bobby Abreu is going to make it a lot more difficult. This was the one guy that all the major contenders could have used. We could have used him to replace Pods as our lead off hitter, and put some threat both at the top of the order and to shore up our hitting weaknesses at the bottom of the lineup. Boston could have used him as a replacement for Coco Crisp or Willy Mo. The Tigers could have used him instead of Craig Monroe or Marcus Thames. He could even have helped Oakland's offense. I'm just pissed that he's made the Yankees lineup formidable and dangerous again. Break a leg, Bobby! Its pretty hard to call taking on that enormous contract "nothing". This isn't Yahoo fantasy baseball, and dollars mean a lot to teams. If they didn't someone would have offered a lot more than the couple of minor leaguers the Phillies got.

This page is just for you This guy tears apart one of the videos spouting this crap, line by line

I would have to call this a "statement" game

Anyone know how many pitches JG is at after 7?