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QUOTE(Spiff @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Well now that that's over with we can all get to work on the Middle East. Dude you have been way to little lately.

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4-0 I believe.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 03:11 PM) I agree it's a joke, but did Soxtalk have more posts regarding Martha or Worldcom? What are people interested in? Other people and Martha was funny. And there in lies the problem. People don't care about $11 billion worth of fraud that cost 10,000's of people their jobs, and endless people their retirement money, stock market losses etc, yet Martha Stewart is big news. I don't get it.

Padres in business with a hit and HBP to start the inning and no one out.

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QUOTE(Spiff @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) WVU over Providence Georgetown over Seton Hall Notre Dame over Rutgers West Virginia over BC Pittsburgh over Villanova UConn over Georgetown Syracuse over Notre Dame Pittsburgh over West Virginia UConn over Syracuse Pittsburgh over UConn Providence Seton Hall ND BC Pitt Uconn ND ND BC BC

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) I'm not even going to talk about that anymore. I had a definite disadvantage with Alex telling him stuff and linking him my posts.. Damn just as I was getting the upper hand... Oh well back to my duty in life

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 02:13 PM) Yea.. sure.. I remember the way you two were lookin' at eachother when we met up with him by the bullpen... Wait, I have heard this story before

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 02:07 PM) I'm f***ing blind. I didn't see any post pinned so I made one. Gonna merge the one I made into here. Damn and I was just busting you for it

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) Good grief... what's with you and the "where's Baj...?" everyday lately...?? Um uhhh... He's my adopt a prospect... this is purely for research.. yeah that its it research

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 02:00 PM) I would hope so.. has Baj even thrown in a game yet this ST?? He threw one scoreless inning last week. I don't know if he has worked in B games or not.

Anyone know if we are due for a Jeff Baj sighting?

Told WHO? I want to know exactly who supposedly was told this. Otherwise it is just rhetoric from both sides.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) Any time you want to debate the facts of what I just wrote I'm game. OK well this for starters is 100% wrong. Economics 101, as you like to site, states pretty clearly that less of something will be demanded when a higher price is asked for it. The precise amount of that decline is related to its elacticity and how far up that price is moved. It is abundantly clear that a dollar an hour increase would have an adverse effect on the number of people employed in this country. If anything it would exaserbate the job flight to cheaper foreign labor markets. The net effect on tax base would be determined by how many people lose jobs in relation to the amount of raises for the people who stay in the labor market. Its pretty obvious to me that using the last recession as an example, companies will not hestitate to lay off employees in order to maintain profits, and ergo pump up their stock price. Labor is viewed as another commodity to companies, and they have shown no inclination towards cutting into their profit margin for their employees. They would rather dump more work on existing employees vs hiring new ones, or lay off employees and dump more work on the remaining employees. Both of those trends were pretty clear since the recession of 2001.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) QUOTE: "Wages do not cause sales. Sales are needed to provide wages. Wages do not cause revenue. Revenue drives wages," said Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo. I can't resist weighing in on this. First off the Dems have shown how much they care about labor. The GOP had a proposal to raise the min wage over 18 months? That's like asking a baby to take candy. The Dems should have voted for that proposal. It's a start & it had more GOP support than their own. Perhaps they think they can things done through filibusters Oh Mr Enzi, can I slap you silly? Wages provide productivity, productivity provides sales, sales generate revenue, & revenue - operating costs generate profits. You learn that in economics 101. For a business with a conscience that cares more about employing workers than reaping profits it's cyclical. The profits are then fed back to expand productivity either through expansion or improved wages. A happy worker always produces more than an unhappy one. Now Mr Enzi you might be surprised to know that under GOP leadership the US has experienced it's greatest growth in it's trade deficit. What does that mean Mr Enzi? It means that in order to maintain profits more US companies have decided to shift wages from US citizens to foreigners. It doesn't matter if it's outsourcing, insourcing or any derivative thereof. It's a fact and the rate of growth in that shift is alarming. So Mr Enzi let me complete the picture for modern economics 101 for you: revenue - operating costs generate profits. Operating costs are reduced by shifting productivity from citizens to non-citizens. Less jobs available to citizens results in lower wages for jobs by citizens. Lower wages for jobs by citizens results in lower tax revenue & lower disposable income by citizens. Lower tax revenue & lower disposable income results in a shrinking market. A shrinking market means less $ for national defense. Less $ for national defense means a weaker nation. The bottomline Mr Enzi, is that $5.15/hr is not keeping jobs in the hands of citizens. We can't even make magentic ribbons to support our troops for pete's sake. Those are made in China. So the belief that $6.15/hr is going to have an adverse effect on jobs is ridiculous. It's only effect will be to reduce profits for those companies who have no other choice but to employ citizens (service jobs). It's only effect will be to raise tax revenue & disposable income dollars to strengthen the marketplace. Thanks to GOP leadership & Dem leadership who seems to not give a s*** "Made in America" is a meaningless statement in this world. All that the world values is "Bought in America". Raising the minimum wage helps that. Unless of course you might want to get off your fat arse & do something to make "Made in America" mean something again. Heaven's forbid you should consider a bill to that effect. BTW for all you lovers of the global economy do you care that your medical & tax records are going overseas to be processed? Do you care that violates your privacy rights? Do you even care about privacy rights? Oh, why do I bother? What? Are you serious or just being ironic?

QUOTE(CrimsonWeltall @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 12:37 PM) If they had reached a verdict, I'd see your point, but "Jury still jurying" isn't front page news. how often was a day of the Martha Trial the front story on the news? The minute it went to the jury there were umpteen reporters all over the place talking about. Yet when the largest case of fraud in the history of corporate American goes to the jury, nothing. Its a joke.

They can at anytime until the jury gets the case.

It discredits him. Now whether he is telling the truth or not, the fact that he is a liar is hanging over him.

Throw the problems with the Air Force Academy in there, and you almost wonder if the thin air is taking too much oxygen out of peoples brains up there...

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) Don't make me... Please don't make him

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) And if you don't know better... Steff will give you the and make ya Just refer to Steff's new sig, and everything will be OK.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 10:50 AM) Oh, you work for the Tribune Co?

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 9, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) Actually the historical record shows that the 1991 Gulf War was started by Kuwaiti companies slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields and depressing the price of oil by overproducing over the OPEC quotas. This made it impossible to get out from the Iraq-Iran war debt. Not saying it justifies the invasion -- but there was a reason he did what he did. Not to mention that April Glaspie (US ambassador to Iraq) told Hussein that the US (via Baker's command) had "no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts" like the Kuwait border dispute, and Hussein understood this to mean US non-involvement should Iraq pursue military resolution of conflict. (This was stated in the summer of 1990 -- 5 days before the invasion, FYI) And much of the case for the Iraq war (part 1 in 1990-1991) was debunked BS. Take, for example, the claims that Iraqi armies were throwing babies out of incubators. It was found out that the Kuwaitis had purchased a PR firm to promote these claims -- yet they did not have one iota of evidence to back them up: http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html So if I say I have no opinion on KipWellsFan, I am giving you permission to kick his ass? Just because someone wants to stay out of a problem, that doesn't mean they would sit by when someone attacks them. To me that means fix the problems yourselfs, not start a war. And I always thought the reason for Iraq war one was because Iraq invaded Kuwait. The rest of that stuff was secondary.

Ew.