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He didn't have value when the Sox could have afford to trade him. The QO is a completely different thing.

I'd like to see the list of teams who traded their #1 starter mid-season during a playoff run.

So we were supposed to trade him in 2021 and punt on the playoffs? My whole argument was he had no trade value until 2021, and in 2021 he was too valuable to trade.

Midway and stay downtown or river north. Don't let people's fears scare you off of a good time.

All Sox fans would have loved to get something for him, but this isn't OOTP. He is a guy who had major injuries and hadn't had an actually good season in five seasons before last year. He came off of TJS in 2019, so both that and 2020 were washouts where he showed nothing. 2018, he had a FIP near 5, and his strikeout rate and stuff fell off pretty hard, probably because he was nursing an injury which turned into his TJS a year later. 2017 he was hurt again with only 12 starts and didn't even make 70 innings. Taking all of that into account, the entire world had a crack at him in the 2020-21 offseason, and literally no one was willing to offer him anymore than what Vince Velazquez got as a free agent. If he had trade value, he would have been signed for A LOT more than $3 million and an invite to spring training. Pitchers with trade value get a LOT more, both in terms of years and dollars. So as you attack everyone for saying the obvious, when do you think they should have traded him and what value do you think he had pre-2021? I sure don't see it, but let's actually hear you logic instead of your hurt feelings.

SUCK IT ROYALS!

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I am curious for your source on this.

Would you have not made the same bets on Chris Sale and Tim Anderson? You make these bets knowing full well that they might not pay off, but because they made these types of deals with Sale and Adam Eaton, the rebuild was pushed forward by years. If we hadn't made this deal with Tim Anderson, he would have been a $20ish million player this year (he is $9.5 this year) and pending free agency after this season. Instead he is controlled for the next two years at $12.5 and 14 million. So yes, you can pick out the deals that didn't work, but these three years are probably going to save the White Sox something like $50 or $60 million on Tim Anderson alone.

I don't know if it will be Ayton per se, but this is the TYPE of deal the Bulls need to pull off.

Now I see why you like Tony. Leury Garcia hitting 2nd. some dude named "Roberts" hitting 3rd , and some dude named "Pollack" hitting 8th.

Do it at about 7:10 CST tonight to save us all from ourselves.

Yeah, this is what systemic failure looks like.

Tim Anderson is having his career worst year in the field. I am OK with calling him not sharp.

So Giolito still isn't ready to go.

Typically MLB deals are fully guaranteed. Most likely is that Cueto's deal is prorated from the day he makes the major league roster, and is paid the full remaining amount over the rest of the season from then on. Right now 20.37% of games have been played, so subtracting that much off of his $4.2m leaves about 3.35 million over the rest of the season.

That's how early contracts work. Some money gets moved up front on the bet that they will more than save on the deal in the long term. You regretting the Tim Anderson or Chris Sale deals? Same thing.