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Amen to that.

For Burke and Kay I think their ceilings are #4's. Thorpe obviously has a weirdly high ceiling, but he HAS to be pinpoint in his control for it to happen, and so far he hadn't been able to do that. Add to that this being his first full year off of TJS, and I wouldn't look for much from him at least this year.

For Burke and Kay I think their ceilings are #4's. Thorpe obviously has a weirdly high ceiling, but he HAS to be pinpoint in his control for it to happen, and so far he hadn't been able to do that. Add to that this being his first full year off of TJS, and I wouldn't look for much from him at least this year. EDIT: Best case scenario isn't really those three, but Dutch and Smith coming back towards their ceilings and pitching like front end guys. Those are the two who can front a rotation, not the other three.

This should tell you how far behind the pen is, not isn't. We have one guy who might be a back end, if everything goes right (last year it did not) shut down guy, and none who are really the classic 7th/8th inning guys and definitely no big time lefty shutdown arms. Vasil seems to be a bridge guy who covers innings in the middle. Leasure is a middle guy. Maybe we get the big arm out of the one Rule 5 guy who can bring it, but the odds are pretty small there too.

No Jerry, that is Japanese for David Eckstein.

Yes it has nothing to do with how many games the pen has given away. It has to be something else.

I don't know what we get out of Burke and Kay, but it is typically a bad idea to expect a lot out of a guy in his first season off of TJS, especially for someone who already has a below average velocity.

What context is needed? This is a bullpen that is so bad, it has caused the team to preform under their expected record by about 20 games the last two years. There really hasn't been any substantive changes from the last year to this year, so I wouldn't expect that to change until the people out there do.

This bullpen is, and continues to be, historically awful. Even getting back to "average" would involve massive overhaul of the people out there.

I think an 80 win best case scenario exists assuming they keep Robert and he is healthy. Realistically I think they fight to get out of the 90 loss range.

Or 4.

You need a bullpen for that to happen.

And they apparently got Ish to do it.

The more we try to pretend things are different, the more Jerry tries to tell us they aren't.

Which never has to happen if Rick gets his first choice, Bryce Harper.

They will have to do some pretty decent cap work to get a guy like that in here.

According to Popular Mechanics it was a Streeter garbage dump. This is is someone copying the original article which is paywalled. https://theyawningchasm.com/2021/08/02/the-pungent-history-of-americas-garbage-mountains/

No more line ups of 6 number 9 hitters.

And to bring this full circle, thanks to watching some PBS/Geoffrey Baer, DYK that the Chicago Bears Soldier Field was built on a (wait for it... wait for it...) literal garbage landfill as it was originally about 150 yards into Lake Michigan, but was where people dumped their trash during the early years of Chicago. They drove pilings through the trash piles and into bedrock to anchor the stadium.

I love that you spent that much effort on this post and all my other posts you meltdown over. I own you, and never forget it as you seeth over the next one, and the ones after that.

Yeah, maybe they decide to spend a few bucks to supplement after the last signing, but they burnt the bridge with Giolito.

Who is trading an equal CF for Robert and why wouldn't they just keep the one they have?

Just eat the deal. You hav3 to pay him anyway, so pay him to go away.

Funny how these clowns are NOW posting Japanese market rumors

And on top of it, you aren't picking a guy at that stage who you don't already have an agreement 99% done with.