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just move beckham down one more to #3 che has been great in the two hole .292/.354/.442 - .796

Pods Ramirez Beckham Dye Thome Konerko Pierzynski Quentin Getz also at the end of the season i offer CQ a similar contract as last year.

I agree with all of you, but when you have Beckham producing like ryan zimmerman/evan longoria at the plate and a solid cheap option at 2B, i would say keep it the way it is especially if Getz can make the adjustments you spoke of letting the inside pitch go by for a ball or turning on it or taking a very balanced approach at the plate and going with what they give you and develop into that 750-770Ops player. Chris could soldify 2B and hit #1-2 in the line up for a long time coming. I think the way things are right now with Viciedo looking to be the heir apparent to konerko there is no reason to move beckham outside of his bat being elite in the MI(which would be awesome) but then you've got to worry about the CI, we've got Morel and Viciedo. If anything one more year at 3B to truly see what we have in Getz, Viciedo and Morel will not hurt his ability to convert back to 2B/SS. I'm not against moving getz it just seems he fits the mold of player this organization has for so long tried to develop and have at the major league level.

QUOTE (Voros @ Aug 3, 2009 -> 03:04 AM) Roberts is a career .284/.354/.417 hitter, just a little bit better than the .280/.350/.400 I listed as Getz's upside. And that's _upside_, not necessarily the most likely outcome. Adam Kennedy also hit .270/.318/.372 at 25 (with the exact same OPS+ as Getz) and that's more or less the player he's been since. Mike Lansing, Mark Grudzielanek, Tommie Herr, Harold Reynolds. All useful players, but nobody you wouldn't shove out of the way if Jeff Kent was waiting in the wings. This is a very good conversation were having. I agree chris very well could become any of those players you mentioned but the promise of that upside a 770ops 10HR 30SB contact hitter with excellent base stealing technique is quite an asset to have. If you have beckham producing at a 900OPS level at 3B, i think its perfectly acceptable to leave Getz at second for a season or two to see if he can deliver on that upside. In fielding a team of homegrown(cheap) players from our own ranks, it allows us to have a deep bullpen and rotation for the next 4-6 years. Think of all the money we are going to have to spend to spend on top flight international talent and FAs.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 3, 2009 -> 02:45 AM) AJ would be an interesting player to try and move because of his reputation around the league. Personally, I think the return wouldn't be good enough for us to justify the risk of losing him next season. I think it's probably best to let him play out the term of his current contract and hopefully Flowers can take over from there. yeah i think the front office is set to let him and PK ride out their contracts because they're still producing and they're fan favorites and also their heir apparents are about a half of season to season away. If we keep AJ i hope we bring up flowers to be the back up. So that flowers can step in full time in '11 and the staff doesn't miss a beat. honestly i could see us bringing back everyone including dotel and slowly working nunez/torres/link/hernandez into the mix. With the money coming off the books and the deals we will wind up offering dye and thome, i think the only players that don't return next year are Jenks and Jose and even then thats debatable on how hudson and some of our relief prospects do now and in sept.

S - Figgins CF L - Getz 2B R - Beckham 3B R - Quentin LF L - Thome DH R - Dye RF R - Konerko 1B L - AJP C R - Ramirez SS I wouldn't mind them moving AJ in the offseason he could possibly be coming off his third best season ever posting an OPS over 800, i know the rays and brewers are going to be looking for some help at C because their situations are so pronounced. I see the sox signing both Thome and Dye to one year deals with club options for both. Thome to reach 600 in the sox uniform and provide LH power and Dye to produce in the OF till Danks and Mitchell are ready.

QUOTE (Voros @ Aug 3, 2009 -> 01:43 AM) Getz is a nifty little player, but he's not real young and his upside with the stick looks like maybe .280/.350/.400. If it's that or Josh Fields, Getz looks not too bad. But otherwise you might want to consider trying to upgrade the offense there. The big problem I see is one of timing. Skills not used tend to disintegrate. If Beckham is ultimately not going to play third, it would be a mistake to leave him there much longer past this season. There was a time when Chipper Jones was probably a better defensive shortstop than a defensive third baseman. Obviously that's likely not the case anymore. this should be fun Both are 25 year old 2B anyone want to take a stab at who player one is and who player two is? Player one is Player two is Honestly looking at what Chris has done in April, July and what he is doing to start august, i think he could easily put up career numbers like this . I have a hard time believing he would be capable of putting up a 900OPS season with out being on HGH or PEDs but you never know. Power is always the last tool to develop especially in left handed hitters and just a year ago chris hit 11HR in Charlotte. To me chris outside of his rookie adjustment period doesn't stirke me as the type of hitter that is going to go into prologned slumps. He is a welcome addition to our line up and the station to station baseball that has plagued us for so long, personally in the near future i would have him hitting second with Gordon hitting third with Figgins hitting leadoff and playing CF capping it off.

With the way the roster is set up this year beckham at 3B is fine. Going forward in the future there will be alot of "what ifs". If getz can keep up the level of production around 750ish or even 800 then hes a very valuable asset its like having denard span in the infield. I think the sox let PK ride out next year and give dayan more time to establish himself, with Dayan eventually taking over 1B or maybe KW will get creative after the AFL and move getz aj and jenks and really set us up with a farm system. It blows my thinking that we could be looking at a roster like this in the near future. DH - Thome/Dye C - Flowers 1B - Viciedo 2B - Getz SS - Ramirez 3B - Beckham LF - Quentin CF - Danks RF - Mitchel SP - Buehrle SP - Peavy SP - Danks SP - Floyd SP - Hudson

QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Aug 1, 2009 -> 07:06 PM) I'd rather sign Ben Sheets or Justin Duchscherer to a 1 year deal. They will both be out to prove themselves next year and both would not be a bad #5 at all. what about Rich Harden?

especially if Dayan continues to find his power stroke at AA Post All-Star - .364/.397/.636 1.033

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 1, 2009 -> 05:35 AM) Any speculation on our 6 players for AFL? Danks? Viciedo? Hudson? Ely? Shelby, III? Flowers to continue working on his catching for an extended period of time? Maybe a reliever like Santeliz or Nunez? Mitchell? Phegley (who's REALLY struggling so far in his adjustment to pro ball, putting up Francisco Hernandez-esque, the catching prospect, numbers)? Maybe they will give Gartrell a shot coming off this season's numbers and hope to catch lightning in a bottle like they did with Wise. this is whom i would like to see get time in the AFL, everyone that has a fast track to the show. Hudson, Danks, Viciedo, Flowers, Nunez and Mitchell

I'm calling it now; Hudson destroys the AFL and breaks ST with the sox next year and puts up a line like this. ERA+ 114 WHIP 1.34 185 IP

QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Jul 31, 2009 -> 09:59 PM) Viciedo after the ASB: .364/.397/.636 He's going to be good. Real good. The question then becomes can he stick at 3B? and what if JPN's speculation about a sight problem is correct, hopefully if that is the case he gets it resolved in the offseason.

www.thru-you.com this is why i love the internets!

with both poreda and richard now shipped away we need to restock the "power lefty" ranks, sign morgado and jones, and i would love to see us go way over slot for Goodwin.

I will miss CR/AP and Carter; but we have hudson. its jake peavy, jake f***ing peavy. masterful in this trade KW. KW has set the sox apart in the central and in the AL for the next few years, we still have plenty of money to play with going into the offseason and we have some desirable major league pieces in Jenks and AJ to move to further fortify our future. Simply put i love this trade.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 10:42 PM) Anyone else thinking in their head "how many batters until Beckham bats?" lol maybe..

swisher with the worm...i cant stand it!

I'm sure Dye, Thome and Konerko won't be trying to swing for the fences...sure..

who didnt see that coming; honestly

lol @ our vets.... wakka wakka

I cant say it enough this kid is fearless at the plate and he takes what they give him!

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 30, 2009 -> 09:40 PM) Steve stone posts here? haha

gavin throwing filth up there.

give him the hook or go low and away.