Dick Allen

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 02:47 PM) Hosmer is batting 7th. What the hell happened? He killed it in spring training too. Rebuilding is a b****. Even most of the can't misses struggle.

Cesar Izturis, Mike Fontenot? Are you guys serious?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) Trying to acquire a starting pitcher before everyone knew he was out for the year? Not for 2 months. That additional time to recover isn't worth the chance. I'm pretty sure just about every team figured he was out for the year or wasn't going to be very effective if he did come back by what was happening.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 12:02 PM) The trainer wasn't telling me or us anything, the sox PR was telling us. Big difference. Im sure they told Danks many times the injury could be more severe, could recquire a specialist, could recquire surgery, but thats not what the PR department would release to fans/media. Thats what their job is, to downplay bad news or negative outcomes. Not for a second did I believe nor do I ever believe how good things are when the PR group speaks or how bad things are when the PR group speaks. I consider myself an estitue enough follow to make up my own mind on the information I am able to discover from the various white sox communities: blogs (South Side Sox, Sox Machine), Forums (Soxtalk), Radio (Rongey, B&B, Spiegel, Schuster, Farmer), TV (Stone/Hawk, Garfein, Thomas, Melton, etc), Twitter (Merkin, Mark Gonzales, Jon Greenberg, etc). Taking in all those sources of information on the John Danks injury from Day One, I would say an easy interpretation is that the injury to his arm described as sub scapular Grade 1 Tear, would most likely end his season and recquire surgery. If the injury was recoverable than from all those sources I mentioned above than I wouldnt have heard things over the past 2 months like; "no timetable for return", "Danks still feels sore after throwing on flat ground", "trainers still not sure extent of injury", "RV doesnt think Danks will be back in Aug", "Danks still not ready for rehab assingment", "Danks/Sox eyeing return after ASG now likely mid august", etc etc. When you hear things like this over and over and over you can be pretty damn sure your dealing with a season ending injury, regardless of what the head trainer says through the Sox PR department. If the Sox thought, or I should say knew for sure that he was going to need surgery, exactly what were they trying to accomplish delaying it? They obviously felt it was something where surgery could be avoided. It turns out it was not. It looks like their diagnosis was fairly right on except perhaps the tear was a little bigger than they thought.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 07:22 AM) Humber had a hell of a first half http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...;t=p#half_extra Since then, he has been pretty mediocre to bad Hot garbage is more like it. Since the All Star break last year: 143 2/3 IP 160 HITS 93 RUNS 91 EARNED RUNS 52 BB 122 K 5 HBP 26 HR ALLOWED 5.70 ERA

QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 10:57 AM) Media source is a media source. Every media outlet has been discussing Dank's sub scapular tear since June, I listen to The Score and ESPN 1000 all day at work everyday. Seen it mentioned in pre/post, by Mark Gonzales, John Greenberg on Twitter, seen it mentioned on CSN over and over, even heard Coop talk about it with Rongey and Mulley/Hanley. How the hell were people in here saying no thats not true when I said John Danks as a muscle tear in his throwing shoulder...its been said 1000x time over and well established by the Sox and every media outlet. And on top of that, despite what anyone in the media says about his recovery timetable, show me a pitcher who has had a torn a muscle in his throwing arm or shoulder that hasn't in the end required surgery to repair. sub-scapular does not equal scapular. What you were saying wasn't what Merkin was saying.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 07:03 PM) There isn't a chance in hell I'm taking the White Sox rotation over the Angels rotation. I think there would be a chance if you were signing the checks.

I think this was all a set up. The video I saw had the guy saying he threw him out how cool. Who videos in between innings of a minor league baseball game? The guy was interviewed and said he'd do it again. He was an unpaid intern. He had nothing to lose. I think he thought this would get him some attention and maybe he could make talk show rounds or something.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 08:34 AM) Manto got him out of that ridiculous batting stance he had. It's amazing Walker wouldn't/couldn't. And not being around the Ozzie clubhouse had to help as well. Rios and Ozzie are supposed to be tight. I don't know if it was a legitmate friendship or something that started when Rios and KW almost came to blows last year, and Ozzie figured anyone who wanted to punch KW was a good friend of his.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 11:10 PM) "I think it's a very clear case in our favor...all 3 umpires agree he was inside the line. But they said they have discretion not to call it if he didn't disrupt the throw.." Soscia is pissed Sorry Mike, they have interpreted the rule correctly. Perhaps their judgement that he didn't disrupt the throw was incorrect, we will never really know, but then it becomes a judgement call, for which protests are denied. I bet Angel catchers drill anyone outside the lane from now on.

QUOTE (ctsoxfan @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) it would have been nice if dunn attemted to slide...didnt see anyone telling him too though He would have been out. Knocking the ball out was his only chance.

Other than the perfect game, his ERA has to be around 7.00. I think if he threw a 2 hitter that day, he would be in Charlotte or another organization or out of baseball right now.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 08:11 PM) how in the f*** did this guy throw the best pitched game ive ever seen He gives you a few teasers, and of course the ultimate teaser, but then he goes back to being Phil Humber. That doesn't help the Sox win.

His ERA is around 6.00 for the last year. Its just about time Humber finds a new line of work.

What ever happened to that thing he had going where if you paid him $200 or so, you could spend the day with him? I'd have had him wash my car.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 08:05 PM) Yes he is. Even 1-2-3 innings feel like he dodged a bullet.

Humber is scary.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 07:51 PM) It's hard to say that the throw wasn't partially caused by being outside the lane, as his window to the base to actually hit Pujols is very small at that point. When in doubt, you're taught to call the interference, unless the throw is way, way off. I don't agree with getting rid of the lane - you can't have guys running wherever they want inside the line. Imagine bunts and choppers. You'd never be able to call a runner out for interference. It's really not a crazy of a route as it only kicks in on the last half, and only if it's a play from behind the runner. Ripken was showing the route. The bottom line is since the ball didn't hit him and he wasn't in Pujols way, its a judgement call, that right or wrong, went the Sox way. Ripken thinks they should get rid of the lane and every team have the grass go to 15 inches away from the foul line, and just make guys run on the dirt. The foul line is the left border of the lane and the right border with where you are running. If your right foot is the one landing when you are getting to first base, how is that going to work out?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 07:34 PM) Yeah, he was well outside the running line (so think inside the line). The throw went from C to 1B. On a play like that, the rule is you have to have both feet in the running lane. It does not matter if the ball hits you or not. Angels officially protesting the game. HP umpire messed this up bad, it was such an easy call. It's not like one foot was barely outside and they may have missed it. Since the ball didn't hit him, its the umpire's discretion whether or not his being outside the lane caused the bad throw. If the umpire just thinks the catcher made a bad throw, then interference isn't called. If the ball hit him or he interfered with the first baseman catching the ball or the umpire believes his position was the cause of the bad throw, then interference is called. I can see where you could make an argument the throw was bad because of where Paulie was, you can also see the catcher just making a bad throw. Billy Ripken was actually going over this rule a couple of nights ago and he thinks they should get rid of the lane. If you're running in the lane, especially from the right side of the batter's box its a crazy route, and really you can't run a straight line unless you hit first base with you left foot. The protest will be denied.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 04:17 PM) I've honestly not followed anything in the NL this year. Is Lee's issue poor run support this year? He has an over .900 OPS against when pitching from the stretch. He hasn't been very good. I hope it is Detroit. It can't be the White Sox. If they don"t think Buehrle is worth $58 million, no way they gamble $95 million on Cliff Lee.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) Cliff Lee Claimed On Waivers By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 3 at 3:46pm CST] Phillies left-hander Cliff Lee has been claimed on waivers, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter). The Phillies can now pull Lee back off of waivers, assign his contract to the team that won the claim, or work a trade out with the claiming team. Lee can block trades and claims to 21 teams, which could limit the Phillies' flexibility, depending on the identity of the claiming team. How does it work if its a team he has no trade protection against if they just want him to be claimed? If I'm Philadelphia, I'd see if I could get something first and if not, I'd free myself up from the now $95 million in future committments to a 34 year old who seems to be going the wrong way and let him go.

Enough with the everyone gets a trophy mentality. Rings are earned by teams, not individuals. I like both guys, but they have plenty of accolades. If they want a WS ring for a WS they never won, they have plenty of money to buy one.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 04:44 PM) Ozzie will not quit. But he will mention from time to time how close he's come to quitting several times, just so everyone can reflect upon how lucky they are he decided against it.

Dempster only gave up 8 last night.

MLB Network had someone on who was saying Cliff Lee has a .900+ OPS against when he's in the stretch this year. As good as he's been, he's not a guy you want to owe $80 million or so the next 3 years.