Dick Allen

QUOTE (ChiSox35 @ Aug 20, 2008 -> 12:56 AM) We have Carlos Quentin! If I were a child being conditioned in Brave New World, this would be the phrase being repeated over and over under my pillow. Someone told me yesterday that Carlos Quentin doesn't do push ups. He does earth downs. He also told me Carlos Quentin counted to infinity..............twice.

Like was posted above, Ibanez and Ichiro are left handed. Richard is left handed. I think that's probably the biggest reason why he's getting another shot. Odds are, either one would probably give up several runs tonight. I hope the offense continues on its roll.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 10:26 AM) By the way, has anyone heard anything at all about a possible Crede return to the Charlotte line-up? I was glancing at wsi and there seems to be a lot of speculation that Crede is rehabbing expressly with the idea of coming back for next year (and getting a big FA deal) and not for the White Sox the final six weeks. I guess this makes a bit of sense, but I'm not sure how NOT playing or proving he can play after having yet another setback would possibly increase his value around the league? Maybe Boras thinks it's better not to risk something more catastrophic and that he convince another team (like the Tigers did with Ordonez) with a Top 10 budget to go out on a limb and sign him to a 3 year deal. Strange to think Joe's more concerned with his FA status than the White Sox, although how much of this is the truth and how much is speculation, I have no idea. Obviously the White Sox have been doing "okay" without him so far and are missing Linebrink and Contreras (healthy) a bit more than Joe. Not true just crazy WSI posters. Nothing would hurt Crede's FA value more than sitting out the rest of the season with a back problem.

If the Sox aren't going to give BA a legit shot at the CF job, I sure hope KW acquires a real CF this next offseason. Not having a real one has hurt this team in recent seasons.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 10:17 AM) Why is the $10 million owed to Washburn next year such a big deal to so many people? That's the current market value for an average-to-mediocre veteran starting pitcher. That's what the Royals pay Gil Meche and what we pay Contreras. I'm sure that even "the cheapest owner in sports" could swing that, given that he shelled out a combined $25 million for Santana and Hunter last year and $5 million for a washed-up Livan Hernandez this year. Who knows why the Twins didn't go after Byrd... maybe they want more than a month and a half of services in return for whatever they give up? If I'm not privy to what goes on in their front office, I wouldn't make absolute statement about their plans. You were right, the Twins did claim him. I bet they would have thrown up if Seattle just let them have him.

I think the way the schedule shakes out, they can skip the #5 spot a couple of times and put Richard in the bullpen.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) I thought I read earlier in this thread that Thome never gets the clutch hit??? He doesn't. He never has. He has hit over 530 homers in his career in garbage time.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 02:56 PM) when is the next time we need a 5th starter? Maybe they will send Broadway down to get regular starts and have Richard as a reliever. That's what I'm thinking.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 01:46 PM) This isn't going to sound right since he did limit the Royals to only 2 runs (only 1 should have been earned) over 5 today and that's all you really could ask from Lance. But he really needs to start missing some bats if he wants to succeed against real offenses. He struck no one out and I'd venture to guess that the Royals were making contact on at least 90% of their swings today, he just wasn't getting anything past them. That's not going to fly against a more potent lineup. Great results from Lance but he's gonna have to work on some things if he doesn't want to get his ass handed to him next time out. Is there any word on who Richard is replacing? Maybe it is Broadway.

As much as I think Broadway sucks, its not his fault his on a mound he has no business being on. The guy has an ERA over 7.00 his last 10 AAA starts. The major leagues, even the KC Royals, is not who he should be pitching against right now, especially given the implications of every White Sox game from here on out.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) Uribe is a godsend at 3B, He must have bought you drinks too.

Call me crazy, but if a guy hasn't been able to get people out for a couple months in AAA, chances are he will have trouble getting people out in the major leagues. This one is on KW.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 14, 2008 -> 09:37 AM) The expectations over Dotel here are mind-boggling. This guy is a shell of what he was in Houston, where he would hit 97 on the gun regularly. He hasn't had a quality season since blowing out his elbow a few years ago. He struggles to hit 93 now and doesn't have a good offspeed pitch to make it effective. He had a surprisingly nice first couple of months, but is it really a wonder that a guy with his lack of stuff is getting hit? The cracks were evident even before Linebrink went on the DL. Considering he has 74 k's in 53.2 innings, has allowed 37 hits and has a 1.14 WHIP, I'll take the shell of what he was at Houston. He may struggle to hit 93, but it appears for the most part AL hitters struggle to hit against him.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 09:59 PM) And you know this for sure because...? Given that their surgically-repaired "ace" got demoted to the minors earlier this year and has a long history of injury problems , that Livan Hernandez was so bad that they put him on waivers, and that nobody else in their rotation has thrown 150 innings in the bigs before, I think that the Twins have more than a few reasons to go after a veteran starter with a ton of playoff experience and a very manageable/tradeable contract. And, of course, the only team potentially keeping them out of the playoffs is also looking for another starting pitcher. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's pretty silly to completely dismiss it. Because Carl Pohlad is the cheapest owner in sports. Don't forget, Washburn who has been mediocre at best the past 2 or 3 seasons, is owed over $10 million for next year. To say Washburn's contract is manageable, maybe, tradeable? They seem to be having a hard time doing it. They didn't claim Paul Byrd and he is owed nothing in 2009. That's more manageable.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 06:11 PM) I think the Sox know alot more than any of us. Broadway is a SP and Carrasco is a bullpen guy.Why would you switch it around ? Let's see what Broadway actually does before all of us "scouts" say he has nothing. Most people just judge a prospect by how hard they can throw. I think it's kind of funny in this thread that Gio's fastball topping out at 92 is great while LB's topping out at 92 is not so great. He can't be any worse than the crap Richard threw up there and most people were looking forward/wanting to see him pitch. Broadway may end up stinking but do you really think if the Sox thought Poreda or Egbert gave them a better shot at winning that they would be up here instead? Carrasco has been great in the bullpen, I like the fact the Sox will keep him there. Chances are, he'd be a mediocre to bad starter. He pretty much has been one his entire career. There's no reason to weaken the bullpen to have him struggle as a starter. Leave him where he's had success. As for Broadway, this is just sad. One thing about it though, I bet if Broadway fails, his career as a White Sox will not extend beyond 2008.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 06:06 PM) It's possible, but there are quite a few teams in front of us, including the Yankees and Twins. I don't think that the latter would let Washburn get to us. Yes they would. They have no interest assuming that contract. The Yankees may have claimed him. Since they were interested in him before, I don't see why they wouldn't.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 13, 2008 -> 04:21 PM) Broadway has some of the tell tale signs of a guy who was "bored"/working on stuff in the minor leagues. The problem is, his stuff isn't good enough for me to trust that was the case and thus he'll be solid in the majors. I hope I'm wrong though. What were the tell tale signs you speak of? He started off great, but has been horrendous for a while.

I look at this year a little differently. If someone told you March 30th that as of 8/13: Both Buerhle and Vazquez would be below .500 Bobby Jenks would have 22 strikeouts Scott Linebrink would miss over 1 month of the season There would be more than a couple posts that Octavio Dotel shouldn't be used in close games Nick Swisher would commonly be refered to as "dirty .230" Paul Konerko could only wish he was hitting .230 Joe Crede's back would go out again and Juan Uribe would be the 3rd baseman Jim Thome didn't hit the first 2 1/2 months Wasserman,Russell,Carrasco,Broadway would all be recalled from Charlotte. Contreras would be hurt. Win 7 games and be lost for the season. Horacio Ramirez would be acquired because Boone Logan was horrible. Cabrera would have several issues with teammates and management. I don't think anyone would say first place was even a remote possibility. Everyone mentions the Sox faults, and obviously there are many. A lot of people are afraid of the Twins, and maybe rightfully so, but everytime they grab first place, the Sox take it right back. This team is different. They haven't got all the breaks.

I was wrong with Floyd, liked Quentin, but didn't think he'd be a possible MVP this season. I still like Uribe.

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QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 11:46 AM) Yeah maybe he thought he could win 12 games, but if he didn't he was going to win a bet with Jenks, who knows what Jenks would've had to do. Eat a salad?

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 10:32 AM) Childers is posting ridiculous numbers in the minors... whats his deal? Does he just not have any stuff? He's a 33 year old AAA roster filler.

I think this guy is for when rosters expand. They probably are praying they can get him some control.

How would some of these guys clear waivers?

I saw him on the news last night. He looks like Kojak.