Dick Allen

QUOTE (Sox It To Em @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) Sore neck, but he's rumored to still start if the game decides the division. It would seem he wouldn't be 100%.

The Twins and White Sox are tied in the loss column. The White Sox have not lost to the Indians at USCF in 2008. Freddy Garcia will be pitching for Detroit on Monday, if that is necessary. Cliff Lee, if he pitches Sunday, will not be 100%. Its far too early for a funeral.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:41 AM) I wish our organization agreed. But they'd rather have slow, washed up guys with questionable desire. And yeah, before the holier than thou's bombard me with "hey, the veterans on this team have rings too", save it. We played deadball late in 2006 and now we've done it again late in 2008. The veterans on this team are fat and happy with the ring they got in 2005, and that's a f***ing shame. I give OC credit, he has a ring too and he still gives a s*** at least. Just because a guy who can't wait to leave, goes on a radio talk show and questions his teammates' ways of going about their business, doesn't mean he's the only one who gives a s***. Just because a guy goes 0-4 doesn't mean he doesn't care. In fact, the White Sox slobbering of all things Twins and Metrodome probably has affected guys who have been around longer than OC. They have been convinced they cannot win there by the entire organization's defeatist attitude about that place. Anytime there's a small hint of trouble, its "here we go again". Its an attitude in serious need of adjustment. '

While OC made what I believe to be some valid points, one being they should win some games before they start, there are a couple problems with his comments in my mind. Players prepare themselves for games differently. Some must focus for hours, some play cards, some joke around. Everyone who is on a major league roster, even if they suck, are excellent baseball players and have gone about their business most likely the same way for many years and its obviously been successful. Why, if you're a leader, do you call out your teammates on a sports radio show? Why not face to face? I know some will say how do I know he hasn't done that. Reading Ozzie's comments, its rather obvious he has not. And, if you're such a leader and you don't like how your team goes about their business, why is it you don't say anything until the end of September? OC is a whiner. Ozzie doesn't like him because OC thinks Scoscia is a better manager than Ozzie. Of course every baseball person not named Hawk thinks exactly the same thing. OC perhaps had valid points, but his timing and venue of his remarks were terrible. I'm sure the Sox spin will be 24 guys + 1 guy. After building him up all season, they will say he's addition by subtraction. I hope they are right.

I'm counting Monday against Freddy and the ready-to-go-home Tigers as a W, so essentially there is a tie in the AL Central. The Sox really blew it the past few days, and I blame the organization's defeatist attitude about the Metrodome. As soon as something goes wrong, it now is engrained in every White Sox mind that they cannot win there, and that is a horrible thing. It needs to stop. I'm hoping the Twins have a little letdown and the White Sox continue to pound the Tribe as they have at home this season. There's still hope.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 02:13 AM) We do not deserve to be in the playoffs and the twins are a better team. Believe me. The old school people here know me. I am a die hard sox fan. I am also able to objectively look at things and right now.... that's where I'm at. If we where to somehow get into the playoffs - we would probably be beat right off the bat. The twins have a better shot of going past the first round than we do. They are a better team. OK. That said.... mods - moderate me like always and merge this thread with another. You all know I just love being censored. The Twins are up a half game in the win column. So if you count the game Monday against Detroit as a win, and I do, there is a tie in the AL Central at the moment. The only time the Twins are better than the White Sox is when they play in the Metrodome and its all mental. The organization as a whole bows down to them there. They act like the Twins are the 27 Yankees and they are a 100 loss ballclub every time they go to Minneapolis. Its a very defeatist attitude and as soon as something goes wrong up there, its in everyones' minds. Quit the Twinkie praise White Sox. It has cost you plenty.

QUOTE (dww879 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 08:19 PM) While I am thrilled by the result of that inning, I still find the fact that Dewayne Wise is leading off for a team that has a .5 game lead in their division with 5 to play extremely pathetic. KW will acquire a real leadoff hitter this offseason.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 08:18 PM) Now would be the time for me to admit that I'm nervous that it's only the 4th inning. I know. The Sox bullpen will get some work tonight. A couple more runs would be nice.

Everyone that wanted Uribe released=pwned

If Wise is your leadoff hitter in a game this big, KW's job should be on the line.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 08:44 PM) Let's just pretend the Rally Wise never happened. Ozzie's job should be on the line tomorrow....this team has quit on him. The whole organization has bowed down to the Twins in the Metrodome. I thought they would win 2, but they will not win tomorrow if they keep praising them. Its time to knock someone on their ass, and act like you're the team in first place.

The White Sox have had these 3 games circled and counted as losses for months. They need an attitude adjustment. Quit kissing Twinkie ass.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 08:43 PM) Good fake maybe get the pitcher thinking about the runner instead of the batter, maybe Nathan tries to get it home to quick and makes a mistake. Nathan can't see him, and I doubt he even cares.

Good fake? What does that do, Hawk?

Wise is not the guy you want hitting here. There is no way KW doesn't get a lead off hitter this offseason.

QUOTE (kane0730 @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 08:39 PM) Hello Dirty .230 He'll need a hot streak to be that.

That's a triple if Jr. is playing CF.

Swisher is going to strike out for Uribe.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 08:36 PM) but javy is worse than dog s***. According to some on this board, he's one of the best pitchers in baseball.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 08:35 PM) It's good to see the Sox making another dog s*** pitcher look good. He has a lower ERA and better winning pct. than Javy.

QUOTE (iguchi=dank @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) In my opinion Swisher gets to play everyday in left that ozzie wants to play griff in center, and then BA gets to come in late for griffey, that seemed to work for a while and its what we should do. Wise has had his moments and as a PH he can have a few more, but he can't start for us.. seriously, he can't be a starter in the playoffs, we need to ride the swisher and hope things turn around for him, i still for whatever reason think he can, but at least be better than d. wise. anyway lets go right here and take wise out. Unless Wise comes up huge in the next few innings, I have no doubt dirty 30 will be playing tomorrow.

Dye should be thinking RC. He has really looked silly on breaking balls for a while.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 08:28 PM) No one cares about pitch counts in a game like this. I'll bet you they don't let him throw 130 pitches no matter how good he's doing.

Buerhle is settling down. Too bad his pitch count will get to him later and get us a view of the bullpen.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 02:22 PM) From the "McCain's Trying to Hide Bad Polls" Crowd: CNN Polls: CO - Obama +4 MI - Obama +5 PA - Obama +9 WV - McCain +4!!! MT - McCain +11 I really believe if the election were held today, McCain would win. I think unfortunately there are still a lot of people that when it comes time to actually vote will not vote for Obama because of his race.