Dick Allen

QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 09:33 AM) We seemed to do OK when Hermie went down in '05, I have no doubt someone will step up in Liney's place! The White Sox had Jenks to fill in. Wassermann is no Jenks. Wassermann, Carrasco and Massett late in games is starting to resemble the bullpens of 2006,2007. I'm sure KW's cell phone use is very high right now.

It was a huge win. The Sox could play like crap the next 2 games and only lose 1 in the standings for the series. I like their chances getting at least 1 more win here. Split in Minnesota, win 2 out of 3 in KC and they are on their way.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 26, 2008 -> 10:09 AM) Damn, I wanted him here. No way Cleveland would trade him to the White Sox unless the Sox offered a much better package. If he helped the Sox win it all, it would help the White Sox for years down the road, hurting Cleveland. I actually think his being in LA and Cabrera still available gives it a better chance that the Sox could get him if Crede's back doesn't respond to treatment. I still would make those odds pretty slim.

If that's all it would take to get Halladay, KW should make that deal before Toronto could change their minds. Floyd has been good this season, much better than I thought he would ever be, but........................even though he's kept damage at a minimum recently for the most part, he hasn't really cruised in a game for a while even though he's posted some very good outings. There's still something there that makes me think the wheels could fall off any moment. Maybe its just me with Floyd, but unlike a guy like Buerhle who when you look at him on the mound, his face looks like he could be playing in a softball game at a company picnic, Floyd always looks like a guy who is testifying before Congress with something to hide. Halladay is an ace, a perrenial CY Young candidate. If those guys are available and the price isn't insane, you grab them.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 10:38 PM) Beyond 2005, give me reasons why we shouldn't treat him that way. B to the motherf***ing A You post some pretty interesting things. Most would push right through the border of garbage. I think this one takes the cake though. BTW here are some numbers: Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG *OPS+ TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+ 1997 21 LAD NL 6 7 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 .143 .250 .143 10 1 0 0 0 0 1 1998 22 TOT NL 75 217 21 47 4 0 7 29 0 1 16 40 .217 .276 .332 61 72 0 3 0 3 10 LAD NL 49 144 14 31 1 0 4 16 0 1 10 30 .215 .272 .306 55 44 0 2 0 2 5 CIN NL 26 73 7 16 3 0 3 13 0 0 6 10 .219 .284 .384 73 28 0 1 0 1 5 1999 23 CHW AL 142 513 71 151 31 4 24 81 1 0 45 68 .294 .352 .511 116 262 1 3 0 2 19 2000 24 CHW AL 143 524 84 156 31 1 21 97 1 0 47 72 .298 .363 .481 111 252 0 5 0 10 22 2001 25 CHW AL 156 582 92 164 35 0 32 99 1 0 54 89 .282 .349 .507 119 295 0 5 6 9 17 2002 26 CHW AL 151 570 81 173 30 0 27 104 0 0 44 72 .304 .359 .498 124 284 0 7 2 9 17 AS 2003 27 CHW AL 137 444 49 104 19 0 18 65 0 0 43 50 .234 .305 .399 83 177 0 4 7 4 28 2004 28 CHW AL 155 563 84 156 22 0 41 117 1 0 69 107 .277 .359 .535 127 301 0 5 5 6 23 MVP-16 2005 29 CHW AL 158 575 98 163 24 0 40 100 0 0 81 109 .283 .375 .534 136 307 0 3 10 5 10 MVP-6,AS 2006 30 CHW AL 152 566 97 177 30 0 35 113 1 0 60 104 .313 .381 .551 134 312 0 9 3 8 25 MVP-22,AS 2007 31 CHW AL 151 549 71 142 34 0 31 90 0 1 78 102 .259 .351 .490 116 269 0 6 9 3 21 If 2005 is the only reason you think White Sox fans have reason to treat Paulie decently, I think you should quit watching baseball because obviously you miss the majority of what goes on.

You just have to hope its not serious enough to keep him out a year or so. I hope he comes back from the DL or avoids it totally, is lights out the rest of the year and then gets traded.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 08:37 PM) Hawk said during the broadcast that Liney had stiffness in his left shoulder..... He was talking about Jenks.

The White Sox have been very fortunate with pitching injuries for quite a long time. You can give Herm credit, but there's really only so much a trainer can do. I just hope its not something serious with Linebrink.

I wish they played again tomorrow with a noon start. I think the hangover would still be with Detroit.

You had to figure they had a chance when Detroit only had 4 runs when it seemed they should have 10. Of course it didn't look good with 2 out and nobody on in the 9th. This team is winning games it should lose. You have to like their chances.

Huge win.

What would Thome's average be if they played him straight up?

Yes

I really don't like Todd Jones.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 08:40 PM) who is up for us?? top of the order

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 07:32 PM) Oh well, we won that trade with Danks. Wouldn't be a loss. Massett is fine as the long man.

Swisher had a great June. Throw that out and he's hitting .198.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 07:22 PM) Alexei is really good. does this team have any chance of scoring off Jones/Rodney?? Every other team seems to have no problem.

Its a shame Massett has to be used late in close, big games.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 07:17 PM) Masset in? What the f***? I'm thinking Linebrink is not 100%. Jenks was warming up the other night when Linebrink was pitching in the 9th with the score 10-2.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2008 -> 07:15 PM) Dude, nobody who is a Sox fan hates Konerko. Then there are a lot of people pretending to be Sox fans on this board.

Make them pay Paulie and shut up the haters for a couple of minutes.

Zumaya throws so hard but you can tell everytime what he's going to throw. If he ever drops to 95 or so, he'll be batting practice. He throws hard enough now where he can get away with it.

Zumaya gives away his change.

2 on 0 out top of the order. Its runs scoring time.