Dick Allen

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jan 9, 2006 -> 06:20 PM) I can't wait to see the surprises Zook has up his sleeve between now and signing day on February 1st. I also can't wait to see just how many guys we sign, probably a number in the 30's... Firing Mallory as DC was as big as any recruit he may land.

He isn't very good, but he's better than Timo and can play several positions. He's supposed to be an excellent bunter. Unfortunately the White Sox can't have a superstar taking up their 25th spot on the roster. If they signed him, I think that would mean they were going with 12 pitchers.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Jan 10, 2006 -> 07:21 AM) Unless KW swings a trade for a lefty, one of the following guys is probably going to be in our bullpen... Chad Bentz Javier Lopez Arnie Munoz Stephen Randolph Paulino Reynoso David Sanders various other non-roster invitee lefties Unfortunately, you should probably get used to the idea. The Sox aren't just signing all of these guys for Charlotte. A few of them will probably be released. They are hoping the catch lightening in a bottle, if not send them to Charlotte or send them home. Of that list Munoz seems the best, and that's not saying much.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Jan 10, 2006 -> 06:46 AM) Haha, what do ya know... http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/030318lopez.html KW probably really wanted Mike Myers so after he missed out on him he went and got a poor-man's version of him. I think this guy will end up winning the LOOGY job after a good ST. That article was written in March of 2003, so after the 2002 minor league season. He was decent for Col in 2003 and has been brutal ever since. Nothing should be expected of this guy except maybe to help the Sox get losses out of their system by the time the regular season rolls around.

KW should have picked up Patterson and turned him over to Don Cooper.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jan 8, 2006 -> 02:12 PM) aaron was arguably the best CF in the game last year, only making 3 errors all year. no way anderson matches or comes close to that. Ozzie is questioning Anderson's defense while KW raves about it. I think KW has seen more of it, and he thinks he's better defensively than Rowand. OF defense isn't all about errors. Rowand was very good defensively last season and phenomenal for a 2 or 3 week stretch in July and August, but Ozzie thought he was playing too deep in the playoffs, and he got some bad jumps. Also his throwing was pretty erratic last season. He made some great throws, but a lot of bad ones. Anderson should be more consistent in that area.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jan 8, 2006 -> 11:27 AM) Not being a spoiled sport or anything, or disrspectful to other posters, but I note on many similar type reports how we tend to lay things at the feet, or on the shoulders of Cooper. You have to have something to work with first before believing Mr. Cooper can make them the next star. I know nothing about Bentz, but if we compare him ability and recordwise to Munoz or Walker then we ain't go much, but someone to pitch at AAA. Exactly. It doesn't hurt to bring this guy into spring training, but he has to be a long shot to do anything. He hasn't pitched much in the major leagues, but when he has he hasn't been good.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 8, 2006 -> 07:05 AM) He always says it has never been discussed or some crap like that..... He may say he has no interest, or something isn't going to happen, and then it does. Its all part of negotiation. To say something has never been discussed is a whole other matter. KW may not show all his chips, but he doesn't outright lie.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 8, 2006 -> 06:58 AM) When did KW ever start being honest about his trades...... He always says he never talked about something and than all of a sudden the next day the trade happens.... He would never say its never been discussed. He might say we discussed some things but don't have any interest, or we don't have a fit, or something like that.

According to KW in today's Sun-Times, the White Sox acquiring Willy Taveras "has never been discussed." He once again expressed his utmost confidence in Brian Anderson. Turns out mlbrumors.com got this one completely wrong again. If its never been discussed how did they come up with this rumor unless it was totally made up?

QUOTE(TLAK @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 09:49 AM) Joey Cora was a guest of Bryan Dolgin and Bruce Levine on BaseBall 365 this morning and boy, is he mad at Jerry Owens and Charles Haeger. He mentioned how great Owens played for him, he was leading the league, but then he said he quit on the team. Said he could only see him making the White Sox if somebody gets hurt. Then they asked about Charles Haeger and he says he was leading the league but quit on the team too. Said sometimes when a player gets on the 40-man roster and his agent gets involved they think they have it made. I don’t know if Joey was speaking for the White Sox or just as disappointed manager who’s team fell short of the playoffs after his two stars left. I can't remember Joey Cora saying anything negative about a player before, so he must be mighty upset. There is an article on them on Sox.Com that notes between the minors and winter ball Owens had 775 plate appearances last year, and Haeger pitched 210 combined innings, his previous high was 88 2/3. I’d be surprised if the White Sox development guys want any of their players to log more time than these two. The Owens situation could get interesting around cut down time. If Cora is mad enough to say what he said in public, and Owens plays well enough to make the team, can the two coexist? I highly doubt they will let a guy who played an entire minor league system and had 180 ab's in winter ball decision to call it a year before the winter ball season was over, affect their decision whether or not he makes the White Sox. If its in the White Sox best interests to have Jerry Owens on the roster, he will be there.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) Did you ever consider trying out for the Warren Commission? Why can't you guys accept that some people have more of an inside track, and that rumors get reported as just that, rumors, and rumors don't always come true? This site is almost as bad as WSI in terms of holding rumors' sites feet to the fire. For God's sake they are rumors sites, they report things as nothing more than rumors/discussions. I get a big kick out of people here keeping a scorecard of how many rumors come true. If you knew the baseball business you'd know there are tons of things talked about between GM's/agents every week. Oops I forgot ... the influential people on this board say this guy gets all his info from other message boards ... so he must be a BS'er. Sorry for my contribution to this thread. The fact is this guy had a rumor of Carl Crawford for Josh Fields earlier. Is that not BS? If it isn't KW should be shot for not accepting it. If he didn't get the Tejada rumor off this site, than he reported on this site. First he tells you his "rock-solid" source, his words, has details of players names being thrown out, and then KW has his comments, and all of a sudden his "rock solid" source is on the financial side of things and really won't know about players anymore. If that isn't BS, I've never seen BS. I agree things are talked about that would probably surprise everyone, but this guy is either AndytheClown1 or he got his info from his posts.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 05:40 PM) Because this is SoxTalk. It is easier for the posting community to take pot shots at people vs. building relationships and finding out legit information for themselves. Rock, you are a nice guy but they haven't posted your three team charade. I wonder why he didn't? I think he smells BS better than anyone here. Or that he reads this board, and saw it was going to be done. If he didn't say he was going to do it, and there was an 18 page thread on it, it would eventually show up there.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 05:34 PM) Abreu will rake in Wrigley but I wouldn't trade Prior under pretty much any circumstances if I were a gm on a team with him Do you think they may be getting Abreu in order to move him for Tejada?

I thought the Cubs were out of their minds to trade Prior in a package to get Tejada. If this trade goes down, either Hendry is very very stupid, or Prior's elbow is a big problem.

Big Ben signed a minor league contract with the Yankees and gets a non-roster invite to spring training in Tampa.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 07:06 PM) After reading that,I would say it has a better chance of happening then not! Its weird because I have the same feeling. I thought all this talk of Tejada playing for the Sox was mostly BS, then KW says what he says and I think there's a chance he does. Manny said on espn.com that he's staying in Boston, so if he's telling the truth, that rules out one Tejada destination.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 12:41 PM) I had a random thought while coming in today, it's probably way out there but hey it's just an idea. According the Sun-Times: So if there is any kind of Tejada deal, maybe the Sox would just as well trade Crede and move Uribe to third. As for the Orioles, Melvin Mora's played SS in the past, plus he's eligible for free agency after the season so who knows what the their plans our for him. Just an idea. Considering the concern with Crede's back and Baltimore's reluctance to sign or trade for players with the slightest health question, I would be shocked if they were interested in him.

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) I haven't eaten steak in Chicago for a looooong time, but is Gene and Georgetti's closed? I loved that place. So old school, and the guys on the grill really knew what they were doing. If you're ever in Mpls, eat at Manny's. It's fan-freaking-tastic. I went to Gene and Georgetti's a couple of years ago with my old boss. It was totally old school as we sucked back manhattans at the bar before hand. I ordered mine medium well that night and they burned the s*** out of it. I never send back food for fear of what might happen when I don't see it so I just ate it. I went to see the Sox in Minneapolis a few years ago with my father who spent a lot of time up there and knew his way around. We ate at Manny's and it was excellent.

QUOTE(Cknolls @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) Would not go back. I do not know why they ask you how you would like your steak cooked, because it seems like they cook every steak to medium. I like Morton's Ruth's Chris and On the cheaper end costwise but not quality wise Golden Steer in Forest Park. I had the same experience at Gibson's. The quality of the top steakhouse meat is very similar, in fact a lot of it is the same. Preparation is the key, and I'm a little weird in that I don't always order my meat prepared the same. I go from medium to well done.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 04:36 PM) I agree that he may turn into a good pitcher, putting him in the same sentence with those guys is a little presumtuous. Mark, Garland, Freddy, all had more successful careers than Bedard by the time Bedard made his debut. In 2004 at age 25 Bedard was pedestrian at 6-10 4.59. I think by this point in his career claiming Cy Young awards in his future is stretching it a little. Imay be wrong, and he may develop with age, but at this point I would put him in the maybe category while we have 3 other pitchers who have already been there and done that before him. (keep in mind they are all pretty much the same age). Regardless, getting him as a throw in would be a nice move by KW. The Orioles aren't going to trade Bedard. mlbrumors "rock-solid" source for this was Soxtalk and more specifically the Can Tejada be a reality thread page 4 post #54 posted Dec 30 by Andytclown1 in this section of the site.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 01:46 PM) No doubt...the Count is a rent-a-player...unless they sign him. But they could trade him for a slew of prospects and not get a lot of grief about it from their fanbase.

Everyone needs to look at post #54 from the Can Tejada be a reality thread to see where mlbrumors got its info from, except here it says the Sox offered it, and in mlbrumors it says the Orioles asked for it.

I think they got these rumors from Andytclown1 on this board. If you remember he said the Sox could go up to $105 million in team salary, mlbrumors had it on there the next day. I also believe he said the O's asking price was what is now reported on mlbrumors.com.

QUOTE(JoshPR @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 12:10 PM) Tony Graffanino was just resigned as a free agent I think. So they can't trade him untill June 15th. Nice try MLBtraderumors.com The site is a joke, but Graffinino accepted arbitration so I believe he can be traded.