Dick Allen

There is a Howard Stern clip out ther where Howard asks Trump, Trump Jr. and Ivanka, what something like 86+17 equaled. Trump and Jr. got it wrong. Ivanka refused to answer. They are all like really smart.

Why does Ivanka now speak in a whisper?

Considering the assets they had to deal for prospects, and the state of their division, this should be a lot easier rebuild than most. I would just just like to see a little more consistency with their high end guys in the majors. Gio was great last night. Don’t look like 2016 James Shields last time out. I am not a Moncada hater in the least, but it’s time he put up a stretch of games that show why he was so highly rated. Same with Lopez. I get young guys are going to be wildly inconsistent for the most part. But these are supposed to be elite guys. Instead of calling up Eloy for “hope”; it would be nice if we could get more than a game here a game there to hang our hopes on the others.

Just look at it another way. They were close to signing Alex Gordon. I admit I liked him, but he has been awful and I am not paid 7 figures to figure this stuff out. This past offseaon they were linked to Logan Morrison. How has he PLAYED? How can anyone trust these are the guys who know which free agents to pay? They hit the jackpot in 2005 with Iguchi, Dye and AJ That was long ago. IMO, the Sox will be bucking the odds if this braintrust leads them to where we want them.

I agree. In fact, one blunder, the Jeff Keppinger signing, was actually all Hahn. KW was opposed but agreed to let it happen. Hahn has said this and called it a learning moment. There aren't 2 teams here, Hahn for the good moves, KW for the blunders. That is someone's fantasy. They are all complicit . The reality is for good or bad, this is probably the only franchise in MLB who would have given these guys this opportunity with their recent track records.

Theo and Ludnow in all probability would not have traded Eaton for 3 pitchers. It is a different rebuild. They definitely concentrated on position players. The Sox are not emphasizing that. The Cubs and Astros didn’t have anywhere near a Sale, Eaton and Q and their contracts to acquire prospects. That alone should make the Sox timeline a lot shorter than theirs.

I mentioned this exact point a while back. I have never understood how you can be confident in someone evaluating guys who are farther away from the major leagues if you have no confidence they can evaluate players currently playing in the major leagues or are very close.The other difference is both other teams concentrated on bats. These aren’t execs that just started. The patience isn’t going to be as much as it would be if they had changed regimes for the rebuild. That’s just natural. People loved Renteria last year because he wasn’t Ventura, although if the Sox played exactly the same, it would be more proof Ventura was an idiot. Louie had to leave the Bears after 9-7. It didn’t matter the next year they were worse , Lovie wasn’t coaching them. Then it didn’t matter John Fox didn’t win, Trestman wasn’t coaching. Bears fans won’t be nearly upset if they go 7-9 this year because there is a new coach. If they kept Fox and went 7-9, there would be outrage. So KW and RH, don’t have as big of honeymoon period as a new guy would. There is no guarantee here. I have read so many times when discussing individual prospects how nothing is linear, yet rebuilds are all supposed to go like the Cubs and Astros.

It’s clearly racist. The dumbest low IQ ... people are always black. His base loves it, and agrees. I do wonder who gave him his info since he doesn’t watch fake news CNN.

I don't think anyone questions whether he deserves a call up, but this is one time the White Sox can use the rules to their advantage. Not being in contention doesn't put any pressure on them to field the best team possible. In future years, other guys in Eloy's spot probably won't be held back because they will make the team better, and they will be trying to win. So get the extra year of control instead of watching him play meaningless games we have seen plenty of others look really good playing and then falling apart when they actually meant a little more. The delay isn't going to hurt him. Is Tatis Jr. going to be set back forever even if he makes a full recovery, by not playing these final months? Lebron James probably could have played in the NBA when he was a sophomore in HS. Did playing against HS guys a couple years kill him when he went to the NBA? Eloy will be fine either way. Do something for the team. He doesn't have a large body of work above A ball. It's not egregious if he doesn't get called up. With Kopech, I agree with Law as far as pitchers go. Trying to determine what they will be 7 or 8 years from now is pretty close to impossible. Call him up whenever, although we are getting to the point of innings limits, so you might as well wait until next year. If you want and need White Sox precedent, John Danks pretty much sat out September 2007, and was probably at his best in 2008.

While true, the problem is, when he holds a rally, he may be the smartest person in the room.

This is part of the problem with interpreting good ABs vs. bad ABs. Players get too selective because a 9 pitch AB that results in a strikeout is considered a better AB than swinging at the first pitch and being robbed of a double by a great defensive play. The object of being "selective" is not how many pitches you take, it's getting yourself a good pitch to hit. That can happen on pitch 1, it might take a 9 pitch AB. Letting meatballs go by isn't being a good, patient hitter. It's out dumbing yourself. Moncada was pretty selective when the Red Sox signed him, and it's one thing the Red Sox organization has harped on. But they did seem to think it was becoming a problem in the last year or so, as they were letting way too many good pitches to hit go by. They are now preaching being a little more aggressive.

Especially considering at Big 10media day he said his wif was his best friend and soul mate. That they talk about everything, and she has a good sense of people.

The consensus is Urban is done at OSU. The question is who will hire him, and does he really want to coach anymore? He already retired once. I guess he takes a year or two off and gets back into TV.

He just doesn't know the new rules. If he did, he would say wait until next April.

Ozzie was an attention whore. Some thought it was his genius to take pressure off the players. It turns out it was just about him. Maybe his heart would be back in it after his layoff, but he was mailing it in the last few years. It's one of the reasons he got canned in Miami. He wouldn't even go on the field for BP or any drills. Joey Cora ran everything.

If you hate bunts, you don't want guys like Ozzie, Renteria, or Vizquel managing your team.

If it isn't 2-0 after 2 batters, Lopez is improving.

The exodus in Cleveland begins in earnest after this season. The entire AL Central will be in some form of rebuild. Stay the course, but if you have a shot at a couple of bargains if the big targets can't be had....you might be able to sneak in a good season. But a lot would still have to go right.

With a lot of Detroit, Minnesota, KC, and even Baltimore on the remaining schedule, although you wouldn't believe it watching this series, their winning percentage should improve. It's what they do. They look awful now, but will look decent at times.

So I guess you would endorse Kopech coming up and being a reliever/closer for a while, since that is what they did with Sale. Everything must be the same.

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And what you will be giving up is control over 162 games when he is 28, which would seem to be when he would be at the top of his game, although there are no guarantees. That's the trade. I'll take the latter. If they needed him for a WC push, or were going to be stacked next year, that's one thing. I just don't think it's very realistic to think they will be very good in 2019. He'll have plenty of time to develop.

What I don't understand is there is no outrage for holding guys out for Super 2. That's around 65 days service time. Just about equal to what Eloy has to go for the extra year of control. Think of all the would be HOFers this messed up.

Keep in mind since becoming a professional, Eloy has taken most of September off. It doesn't seem to have slowed him down. I would guess not playing this September would be no different. So now you are talking a month and a half. How long do guys have to wait to get off of Super 2? Seems no one has an issue with that, The White Sox suck so bad I understand why everyone wants to see what may be their greatest toy. I would love to see it myself. But hold the horses. Let's think of the future. I really think if you are so concerned with him playing here and it screwing him up if he is held back, you really aren't so confident in him as a prospect.