Dick Allen

All I am saying is if you think not calling them up this year and waiting for a couple of weeks next yerar means they will not be good players next season or 2020, they aren't nearly the prospects every thinks they are.

Ricky wants everyone in the line up to be able to bunt. Sweet.

I don’t know if they get enough on base to rank very high

He just came back a week ago from 10 days off. If he has some mental issue, he needs to fight through it.

They were taking about all the White Sox comeback wins this year. There have only been 5 games this year they weren’t trailing at some point,

Well that was pathetic. Rickys boys will not score.

C’mon Ricky how about back to back suicide squeezes and tie this one up,

Palka looks like the people who used to try to shag balls for flight vouchers on just about every ball to RF.

You seem to assume that these 2 will not be doing anything but sitting around. They would be playing professional baseball in AAA. Eloy Jimenez has barely 200 plate appearances above A ball. Check out Kopech’s walk rate and tell me again why he couldn’t work on that in Charlotte. I am am not counting on all these guys working out. But if you expect to contend in 2020 one or two other than Kopech and Jimenez better be able to contribute. If the minor leagues are such a waste for development, the Sox are in a world of trouble,

Which is fine. Then 2020 isn’t realistic as a contending year. I just don’t see how the last couple months of this year would be the difference between them being great in 2020 or mediocre, if their development is going to take multiple years, to me it makes a lot more sense to maximize their conteol.

These are your best guys. If you don’t think they will be ready in 2020 unless they are called up this season, you have a problem, as using the same logic, your lesser talented and lesser advanced prospects won’t be ready for 2020 either, so now you are talking 2021.

I wonder what it is like to have your entire life built on lies. It must be why he is so paranoid.

Beckhm and Jimenez have pretty similar stats above A ball, at least when Gordon was called up, in a similar amount of plate appearances. I have,read many times Beckham was rushed the Sox ruined him. Why is this different? They were trying to win in 2009.

There just isn't evidence that calling them up now or the middle of July vs next April makes them better in 2020. It isn't like they would be doing nothing. If that is the argument, you must be expecting them to suck for a while.

He is averaging 5 innings a start.

His walk rate is high. He needs to work on that.

If they had to go back down, that's even more proof they would have been called up too soon.

If his ERA was in the ones, I would say you have to call him up. Stone said he needs to learn to pitch. Why can't he do that at AAA? If the team was just bad and now god awful, I doubt many would be too opposed to the White Sox gaining an extra year out of these 2 by waiting until they are more ready. You want to be like the Cubs, well, Kris Bryant. You want to be like the Astros? Well, George Springer. These guys were held out for contractual reasons. Why is it you need to see Kopech on a major league mound ASAP> One of the advantages of the rebuild is you don't have to call these guys up the second you think they may be ready.

I am basing the promotion on not being able to learn anything more at the level he is at. A 4.02 ERA is indicative he hasn't mastered AAA. And Eloy hasn't even played AAA. They will still get 150 games in 2019 to get acclimated to the major leagues before the team may be legitimately winning. That's more than Moncada has now. More than Lopez, more than Giolito......

So give 'em guns.

I would think McEwing is still on top of the list. You are correct. Hahn did say that if Cooper ever had to retire because of age or health, Hassler would be the pitching coach. I'm sure it's the same all around. They all mention McEwing as manager material.

CNN and AP barred from Pruitt EPA speech. EPA is now saying "limited space". For all the talk about guns and the Constitution, they have no problem making a mockery out of that document. And they are so worried about leaks. Trumps own people are leaking the information. None of them trusts anyone else. It's a paranoid existence.

It's not 2/3 of a season. Right now you are looking at the middle of July. What did Giolito learn last season that he took with him this year? September games for cellar dwellars are meaningless as well. They are like spring training games. Let these guys master AAA until the beginning of September and see them in spring training, Next year, 2 weeks in AAA and there you go, an extra year of control for both. Can anyone site examples of players that played 2 months too long in AAA and it basically ruined them? I'm guessing not. The White Sox get ripped for aggressive promotion. Now, hey the guy has a 4.02 ERA at Charlotte, he's clearly ready, and the other guy is in AA with 200 plate appearances above A ball. Get him up here. It's just the wrong thing to do. You have to be realistic, and it has to make sense for the team. Not only are the Sox near the basement in ticket sales, their tickets are cheaper than most. I read on this board how if the Sox rebuilt, people would be attending more games, buying more tickets. Reality is no. And to think, one decent season and decades of attendance problems will be solved, I don't agree. They are going to need flexibility. They won't be able to handle a payroll that dances around the luxury tax area for quite some time. They will still be here for 150+ games next year, and the reason people want them called up now is they are assuming they won't be ready, and are fearful that only 150 games at the major league level next year won't have them prepared for 2020. If that is true, you are saying they shouldn't be up here.

So that Lincecome signing was stellar.

If you are calling them up in the middle of July, it's about 2 months. They still are playing in AAA until the beginning of September. Then let them go home and get ready for 2019 because by tax day, they will be in the major leagues, hopefully to stay, and the Sox have control through 2025.