Dick Allen

Rodon is pretty good today.

If Davidson didn't strike out in any of his next 181 plate appearances, he would still have a 25% k rate. Which is higher than Dave Kingman.

QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 09:20 AM) I've been a fan since the early 1950s and I don't remember ever reading about weather and rain being an issue in Spring Training in the Sunshine state. It all comes down to the owners holding out their greedy hands and saying "show me the money" if you don't build me a stadium in Orlando, Mesa said they will. You know that JR got Sarasota to build them a great facility in the early 90s then being the jerk that he is, he wanted out and got the Orioles to take over the lease. Screw all the Sox fans that retired to Sarasota so to watch their team in ST. AZ is better for the travel because of the concentration of teams. It does suck for Sox fans who retired to the Sarasota area. But it is better for the team as they can get their work in and still play in the games.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 09:23 AM) He has in his last seven starts or so. He's been down-right dominant the last few weeks. I am sure he will be up soon. Hahn pretty much gave it away. I would imagine they are waiting until the deadline comes and goes so they know what they are dealing with roster wise.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 09:07 AM) In your haste to try and take issue with my fact-based criticism of the owner who routinely brings you losing White Sox baseball, you conveniently skipped over the part where I said we should have "added" players at that deadline. Isn't that what all teams in contention at the deadline look to do? Add? What's "sick" is the team didn't, and let a team with only 86 wins walk away with the division. No. In your haste to tell us how evil Reinsdorf is again, you never mentioned who and what was available and for what cost at the 1997 deadline that would have easily made up the 6 games., and forgot the White Sox employ a GM. You're a one trick pony. Reinsdorf, Reinsdorf, Reinsdorf.... SNL should do a skit.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 10:21 PM) There's no way in hell Royals would put Saladino at short over Escobar. That's ridiculous. There's no way in hell the Royals would start Migo or Holland. They are never that despearate. Melky? Yeah they'd probably take him. I'd try to rob them and get the disappointing Starling. Trade Melky and Tito Polo for Starling. Why would the Sox want Starling?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) If you look at the final record of that season, and see the Sox only finished six games back of a team that won the division with a mere 86 wins, then you would realize the owner was not correct in his conclusion a all. Instead of subtracting players the team should have looked to add players to close that measly 3 1/2 game gap, which by season's end, only grew to six games. Again, Cleveland only won 86 games that season. It's not like they ran off with some insurmountable lead. How many times do you see a team that's only 3 1/2 games out of playoff contention fold their cards at the trade deadline like the Sox did that year? If there are, they're not many, and for those that have, they probably received the same fair criticism Reinsdorf did when this ill-advised decision was made. You're right. Not making that trade makes that team at least 6 games better, the amount they were behind when the season ended. Your Reimsdorf obsession is sick, but hilarious at the same time. While everyone else is wondering what the deal is with Tim Anderson when he throws the ball into the stands, I bet you are blaming Reinsdorf.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) JR would have never wanted to move to Addison and Tuscon if he didn't own the land. He should get a kick in his rear end for passing up the South Loop offer that the City of Chicago made. I've never met anybody who thinks the franchise is better off at its present location as opposed to the South loop location. Also when the tax benefits ran out in Tuscon he moved the team to Glendale. Do you have a link to the South Loop offer he turned down? I do know there was some sort of preliminary plan to build a stadium the Sox and Bears would share but the Bears said no. Here's a link with the truth. Put your BS to rest. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-04...s-soldier-field

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 07:36 AM) They of the 86 entire wins to win the division that year, Indians? Yes, I can see how the genius owner could reach that conclusion then. I mean, how can you catch 86 wins. Would be a fool's errand to even think about trying! If you look at the performance of the traded players after the trade, you would realize he was correct. Karhner was fine as the closer the rest of the year. Darwin was no loss. Alvarez was a loss, but did pitch like crap the rest of the season. Foulke and Howry helped the team get good again.

White Sox scored zero runs off their bunt tonight. Keep on bunting in the free world.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 02:04 PM) Wouldn't mind Washington as MNGR when the team can compete He might snort the foul lines.

Wednesday home games are now dollar dog days. That should pack em in.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 01:38 AM) Name one prospect I've hyped that has less of a chance of producing positive major-league WAR than Courtney Hawkins. Cleuluis Rondon although to be fair, you did say less of a chance and zero does equal zero.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 03:02 PM) Ya but he comes out to wrestling music and does does skits and stuff. Valuable to me. He does have a Batman mask.

The Cubs/Sox attendance thing also has a lot to do with the neighborhoods. The people in Bridgeport don't want a lot of loud bars and people running all over the place pissing on their lawns. They don't in Wrigleyville either, but it's already built in. Back almost through the 70's the area around Wrigley Field wasn't exactly nice. It was a bit sketchy.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) I enjoy Holland's personality...that has some value, right? Yeah, he keeps the team loose. His last 41 2/3 innings, he has given up 42 earned runs and 16 homers. That's like James Shields last season. It's hard to believe any contender would add him to the roster. If he were traded, it would seem to be to be the equal to KW eventually got his man. Someone who was high on him years ago, and now is just high.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 02:48 PM) You find the best offer you can get and ship him out. Even a C level guy is better than nothing. Holland does have some value to the Sox. He goes almost 4 innings every 5 days.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 02:35 PM) Honestly the fact that anyone wants him is the headline here. He is going to generate a garbage return at best. Of course, but find a guy who can't play but is fast, or is a good defender. Or some guy who whiffs all the time but has some power. Or a 24 year old in A ball who has a 9.00 ERA and walks a guy an inning, but can throw 97. A Courtney Hawkins, Jared Mitchell equivalent, and pay the freight. At least there is a million to one hope. And if teams don't want to give you that, then keep him in the rotation.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) Did I miss someone expecting a big return for Holland? No. The post was teams are showing interest. I'm pretty sure he'd clear waivers.

QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 02:20 PM) MLB.com's Mark Feinsand reports that Derek Holland is drawing some interest. Holland has had an up-and-down season, posting a 5.12 ERA and 82/42 K/BB ratio over 102 innings for the White Sox. However, apparently that hasn't stopped teams from asking Chicago about the left-hander. Feinsand adds that Melky Cabrera has not been drawing much interest but could be dealt in August. Yes, it's more in the lines of, if you pay his entire salary, and we give you back basically nothing we may have some interest in acquiring him. At this point, someone has to pitch. Unless you are getting someone with a plus tool, and not your typical 25 year old in high A stinking up the joint, you might as well let him get killed for you.

QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) They had Davidson on the other day and he was also a good listen. All the players have walk up music. Davidson needs some walk back music.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) If the Sox played a full season with their current roster, they would lose, bare minimum, 110 games. I think they pass the Phillies for good sometime in mid to late August. Yes. Before Gonzalez on Monday, the Sox went a month and a half without having a starter go 7 innings. That guy, Q, is no longer with the team. Bad starters or even potentially great ones like Rodon, going 5 innings with the current bullpen, is no way to win a game. Especially when you have an offense that features Tyler Saladino DHing and batting 5th. Someone said this stretch could become historically bad. I agree. Any contender letting this current roster beat them is really a big miss by them. They will somehow manage to win one here or win one there, but to me, they are prohibitive underdogs just about any game they play.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) Bummer's first major league pitch was a strike and his first batter faced struck out. He then allowed a homer to a left handed batter. Mixed results and I am sure not the outing he wanted. Let's get em next time The homers last night for both teams were really smoked.

Well well well. Another old Trump tweet. Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump Follow More Obama's complaints about Republicans stopping his agenda are BS since he had full control for two years. He can never take responsibility.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 11:40 AM) It's been nice to see just cause of how so many people thought rebuilding was never realistic because attendance was going to completely tank. I definitely thought we'd see a decrease this year because of the casual fan just not caring at all but I've been pleasantly surprised. I will not re-up next season. I still have 12 games left. It's jsut a waste of time now. I'll come back when they come back. Especially last night with Cubs fans. This woman about 25 was making blood curdling screams about 3 rows behind me, for about 3 innings almost non stop. A guy with his son, Blue Jays fans, asked her very politely if she could tone it down. Of course not, she paid for those seats. Finally security arrived at first saying they really couldn't do anything since the most vulgar she was was Sox suck screaming at the top of her lungs, just to piss people off. Finally they spoke to a few people who apparently matched stories and went to see her. She starts crying, but at least shuts up. I may not like people cheering for the Cubs at GRF, but this was something beyond and it wasn't only once or twice. It was for like an hour, and security wasn't going to do anything. I was miffed.